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Claire Meyerhoff: Anti-Legacy Society

You have to thank your planned giving donors and have a recognition society. But do you have to call it the legacy society? Plus, what do you do with the group? What’s the experience? Claire Meyerhoff is a planned giving marketing strategist.

 

 

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Hello and welcome to tony martignetti non-profit radio. Big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent on your aptly named host. We have a listener of the week one justice they blogged thank you all. Thank you for all of the amazing content that you do. We love your work end quote. Well, one justice i love your work. You’re bringing civil legal assistance to californians in need very important work without legal representation. What good our rights they’re at one hyphen, justice dot org’s and at one justice dot org’s. Congratulations, one justice, our listener of the week love you out there in california. Oh, i’m glad you’re with me. I’d suffer the effects of ps, eh, phyllis? If i had to wrap my head around the idea that you missed today’s show auntie legacy society, you have to thank your plan giving donors and have a recognition society. But do you have to call it the legacy society? Plus what do you do with the group? What’s the experience. Claire meyerhoff is a planned e-giving marketing strategist and deep pockets. How do you find pockets of wealth in the communities that you serve? Maria simple reveals her. Secrets she’s, our prospect research contributor and the prospect finder that originally aired on march twenty eighth. Twenty fourteen on tony’s take two with an i pad air responsive by pursuant full service fund-raising data driven and technology enabled, you’ll raise more money pursuant dot com what a pleasure to welcome back to the studio are creative producer and ah plan giving marketing strategist krauz meyerhoff. Welcome back. Thanks, tony it’s. Great to be here again in the studio of it. You were last year for our oh two hundred fiftieth july show. He had music. We had skits. We had all kinds of radio x tragically duitz that was cool. Let’s. Just make sure people know that they could follow you on twitter at claire says. And in their very creative way that’s easy, that’s. Got someone else s okay, you but you use it an opportunity and i think it’s clever. So now my way around. Yeah. All right. Um planned giving legacy societies or recognition societies? Um what’s. What is it? Since your you do plan giving marketing? What? What is it that you think is unusual? Are unique about plan giving marketing? Why be a plan? Giving marketing strategist what’s special about that? Well, because really, when you are thinking about your donor’s overall and and putting them into groups or whatever plan giving really is on ly about marketing in a way, i mean, yes, plan giving is about structuring a trust and things like that, but let’s not forget that, but for the regular donor, what they see when they’re getting your newsletter when they see your animal report, when they’re on facebook or whatever, what they see in the course of the day is all marketing that might enticed them or interest them in making a plan gift if they see a donor story. For instance, in your newsletter that’s about someone else, who’s made a plan gift and there really happy about it, and they’re going to have a scholarship or something named after their family because they’re making this bequest and then turns the corner and says, perhaps you’d like to make a gift like this that’s marketing so it’s all about communicating. I like to call it plan e-giving communicating and marketing because it’s not just marketing, okay that’s due to me, i didn’t know you. Ah, including that in your and your your title and well, it’s. Not really. In a title, one more clinton community marketing, communications also promotions and outreach. I’ll say what instead of saying, like, what are you doing for your plan giving marketing to a client? Because that that sort of signals the thing like, oh, marketing that’s my marketing budget ni hyre in this big company and play, you know, do all this stuff instead, i might say to them, well, what are you doing for your plan? Giving out reach? How are you reaching your donors to talk to playing giving about them so it’s a little bit about outreach, it’s promotions, it’s, public relations, communications. All that really, before you do the marketing, all that other stuff is free. It’s free free claire’s whispering for expenses. Okay, everybody here, that’s okay, no marketing does not have to be expensive at all. In fact, i’m doing something. Ah, at the foundation center in november called five minute plan giving marketing. Rand. Yeah, and i’m full of information and news. Yeah, and a lot of ideas do not do not have to be expensive and can be done in. Really? Just five minutes. A little sidebar on a newsletter you know, brief mention at an event things like that now that’s not a saying that all planned giving marketing is done with elements that a lot of them and be done that because that quickly buckslip way were in your in your thing and there’s another one in your newsletter instead of saying, remember us in your will that’s like saying, have a nice day so instead in your newsletter say, are we in your will if we’re in? If were in your well, could you call and let us know it’s important? We’ll we’ll keep your request confidential, if you like or if you haven’t yet updated your will call us. We’ll give you the information you need. So to ask the question are we in your willis so much better than the remember us in your will? Okay, so that’s that’s a great tip that’s the easiest thing that any organization khun do right off the bat now when someone does inform the organization that they’ve included them in the will, then hopefully we have a recognition society for us. Why is plan give recognition society important? Well, it’s important for several reasons the first reason is that it’s a way to thank and acknowledge the person that has made this wonderful gift this future bequest, so by inviting them to join the special society or group or circle, you’re acknowledging their gift to something very important, and they’ll see it in the in the annual report or wherever. The other thing. Why it’s really important to have a legacy society or some sort of a plan giving recognition? Society is so that other people know about it and know that it that it exists. I heard it’s a marketing you can use your legacy society as a marketing, a little marketing platform or or something to encourage other people to do the same. I find a lot of organizations don’t think about planned giving a recognition group, even though they have recognition groups for donors at the thousand dollars level. One hundred dollars five. Yeah, whatever. Whatever is a major gift for you or whatever is the threshold? Usually there’s almost always won two thousand, but yeah, one hundred to fifty five thousand twenty five. They have all kinds of recognition for those. Yes, but they’re not thinking. Oh, plan. Giving recognition well, those people deserve recognition too. It’s really often an afterthought. And that is why so often the little recognition society is simply called the legacy society, because that’s as much thought as when it’s what went into it. Oh, we need to put that in our in our annual report. Here’s the legacy society here are the donor. Alright, since you’re making fun of that name now we can get i was going to ask you some other things, but we’ll get to them. We got twenty times were ah, the name the name, legacy society? Not not the best. Well, it’s not that it’s, not the best. It’s just it’s shows a sort of a lack of thought and and and if you’re already called the legacy society that’s, fine, maybe have a little co-branding a little something and something that you can do if you already have a quote, legacy, society and it’s called that you could just tack a little name onto it, for instance. So let’s say you’re a school and your your school stone that’s in the class ring let’s say it’s, a girls school and and it’s an amethyst and you could you could make it the amethyst legacy society. So you get still. Call it the legacy society, but give it a little a little something. Something a little special buy a little something something i like to see something that’s unique to the organization. What, like i have? Ah, client that has the belltower society. It’s, a school on the bell tower, is an iconic building s on their on their campus over brooklyn college. Yeah, smith college in massachusetts. They have the great court society because that’s it’s, the great court gate is this beautiful gate that when you first come to campus and it has something on it and everyone knows the great court gate and the gate is a nice thing, you know, it’s a gateway again grayce country. Where avery? Good. So they have the great court pin with with the gate a little bit of the gate on it. So that’s what? That’s for what they do the very first i think it was the very first plan giving society that i started when i was at st john’s university. It was called the macallan society that was named for a treasurer back in the late forties, early fifties era and that was exactly the people who we were trying to attract to do a planned gift for the university, and they knew this treasurer avery well, because used to give you a break, he was a priest, right? Have your break on tuition like back when tuition was like ten dollars, for a semester, you couldn’t do it all at once, he’d set you upon a plan is a great story didn’t include that story and you’re marketing his father, thomas macallan. Exactly, and everybody knew father macallan that’s awesome let’s go out for a break and when we come back, we’ll keep talking about the legacy society and some other super plan gift recognition. Stay with us, you’re tuned to non-profit radio tony martignetti also hosts a podcast for the chronicle of philanthropy fund-raising fundamentals is a quick ten minute burst of fund-raising insights published once a month. Tony’s guests are expert in crowdfunding, mobile giving event fund-raising direct mail and donor cultivation. Really, all the fund-raising issues that make you wonder am i doing this right? Is there a better way there is? Find the fund-raising fundamentals archive it, tony martignetti dot com that’s marketmesuite n e t t i remember there’s, a g before the end, thousands of listeners have subscribed on itunes. You can also learn maura, the chronicle website philanthropy dot com fund-raising fundamentals the better way. Welcome back to big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent let’s do some live listener love st louis, missouri, wilmington, north carolina and new jersey jersey you’re masked. I don’t know why there’s no, are you one of the bad guys in new jersey? When the bad people we can’t see what town you’re in, but you’re in new jersey. We know i’m from jersey, so i could make jersey jokes, okay? Um also canada, british columbia’s with us turkey? Welcome on that! I think we’ve had a turkey before, but uh, not too much. Columbia is with us. Welcome, columbia, and we’ve got some other live listeners abroad will get two of course, affiliate affections. If you are listening on one of our am and fm affiliate stations, whatever time, whatever, whatever slop, worrying and your station throughout the week affections out to you all our affiliate station listeners and we’re going to affiliate coming up in, i think i can two more weeks i’ll be able to announce a new affiliate in the pacific northwest that’s all i am permitted to say at this time, that’s all i can say and, of course, podcast pleasantries if you’re listening in the time shift pleasantries out to you, wherever you are, whatever you’re doing while you listen, washing dishes, driving pleasantries to you, our podcast listeners hyre off. Let’s. See? That’s oh, that’s. So we were talking about naming, um so it’s not yeah, so a good idea. If you have legacy society, maybe you can personalize it a little bit. That was your idea. You already have it. And you don’t want to really get rid of it or lorts or scare your board too much or scary organization too much and that they were going to make america new name. Just sort of you could just add something to your legacy society. So you could be the, you know, the oak tree, like personalized or something like that. Okay, um, what are you seeing among plan giving recognition patterns and non-profits it’s all over the board? Because this is this is what i do so let’s say, i’m working with a new organization. The first thing i do is i go find their annual report online, and i look in the back and i see what they have and sometimes it just says bequest donors and that’s all they have, they have no riel, quote, legacy society and some people have really robust really thought out legacy societies with a great name, and they have a lot of benefits, recognition benefits. So what? Kinds of what kinds of i love your earrings, by the way. Very sparkly. Thank you. I’m sorry. We’re not surprised by my very sparkly let’s not get carried away, but the sparkle let’s leave it at that. What do you see? What kind of benefits are accompanying legacy or recognition? Society is very important when you’re when you’re starting to build out your legacy. Society experience. Let’s say you’ve never had a legacy society and your building this out and it’s. Like what kind of things can you offer? People used to say thank you and usually it’s. Nice to offer some sort of a gift. So perhaps you have some nice framed prints or a beautiful blanket with the school logo on it or the organization’s logo. Like whatever you think you can offer. That’s something that’s. Very nice. So it’s, really all across the board to have a gift. Okay, interesting. Let me stop you there. Uh, sorry, but we’re having a conversation. That’s. Interesting. So i have a different theory and that i’m not too big on the let’s. Go big on the little gift. I like a little lapel pins, but you do little framed frame things, those air interesting, like frames prince or something? Well, for instance, i know i know the ronald reagan library foundation in california, when you go in their legacy society, they don’t they don’t say this. I don’t think on their web site or whatever, but after you let them know you’re in the will, they send you, like this beautiful coffee table book, like one hundred fifty dollars gorgeous coffee table book, and you just get that as a way to say thank you. And i think it’s a very sincere way to show your appreciation. So a lot of really good organizations have a nice gift that they send, and then you could have other benefits. So for instance, sometimes they have a yearly lunch or dinner and all the way up, tio i’ve seen colleges, i know a college and i think it’s, south carolina and i want to say the name offhand cause i may get it wrong, but i know of ah college in south carolina, and they have a lot of alumni that live nearby, and so they’ve made a benefit. You can have free parking. On campus, when you come to events, so you need to, like, call the office and get a sticker and you can use the athletic facility, you can use the gym and that’s of great value does a great values but doesn’t cost the organization anything isn’t that first morning, and very few people are going to use it. It’s, it’s like people, you know, they get it and a few people will use it, but but not that many. So whatever you might have that you can offer people. So for instance, i worked with pearl s buck international in pennsylvania and their own organization that you can, like, adopt a child in vietnam, pay something every month and adopt the child, but they also have this beautiful the pearl s buck historic home, so so they’ve offered to members of their new and i’ll tell you the name in the moment of their new organization, when you put them in the will you get you get lifetime free admission to the pearl s buck house, and you could you could transfer that if you live in california that’s okay, you can transfer that if your friends are coming. East or something, you can offer them that’s cubine lifetime admission to the pearl s buck historic home. So things that you already have and you can offer people it just it sounds good, frankly, it’s, like when you’re talking about it, it gives you something to talk about there’s one that i like again, no cost when you’re hosting an event of some type, have a v i p seating area for your recognition society members, your legacy, society members, whatever. Yes, by piece sitting, you know and you could say, yeah, right, exactly or, you know, premier seating and and exactly does a lot of especially schools have, like, a christmas concert or something that’s very popular, and people come to the christmas concert, older people, they love to have that that v i p seating that this a nice a nice benefit for them. Another thing i’ve seen some of my clients do is, uh, before a big event, they host a little reception. They’ve already got the venue that’s already paid for it and it just add on like a half an hour cocktail reception beforehand. Maybe it’s a meet and greet with the ceo before. The larger event where you’re not going to really get time with that person but it’s something something special small added on to something that’s bigger. And so the marginal cost of that is not very big, right? So at a college reunion, if you have a special event for people in your plan giving society and the president of the college comes and you have a nice little cocktail party and you get and you get one on one time with the president of the college that’s that’s definitely special, but the name i think is really is really important to come up with these dust with the pearl s buck. Well, this is i worked at this organization and all they had when it when i came on board was the visionary society and the only place they had it was in the annual report, and that was it. So you never saw it on the website or you never never saw it anywhere else, so they felt it was time to refresh. So the visionary society like visionary, you can’t really see it like what is it? And so instead what i’ve done is we created something. Called the camelia circle because pearl s buck, the author that everybody loves that’s part of this organization that was her favorite flower was the camelia and right next to her office in the historic home is a beautiful greenhouse filled with camille ia’s. So we’ve made a beautiful camelia circle pin and it’s the camelia circle rather than society, because i tend a lot not like to call them societies and everything else is, well, the society. So if you have ten different societies, well, your plan giving society is yet another one. But if you circle that’s something different, i could say a guild or a league or a circle there’s a lot of other things, things that you can say. Okay, cool. Um, there’s one that occurs to me. I have a client that’s, pretty small ship it’s a historical society. And they’re celebrating what’s called the abraham lincoln brigade, which is a bunch of men who from america, who volunteered to go fight in the against the fascists in the spanish civil war. And they became known as the abraham lincoln brigade. The spanish civil war is like nineteen, thirty six to thirty nine and some of these men went over, like three thousand them and this society’s perpetuating their legacy legacy these these soldiers in the war from the u s and they call it the haram a society on the haram a haram a means absolutely nothing. That’s what i love about this, it means absolutely nothing to anybody outside the organization, right? But that doesn’t matter. That doesn’t matter to people right in any organisation. Haram a was a big battle in spanish, they all notice of that know all about it, and they’re right, and everybody else out there on the outside has no idea, and it doesn’t matter. It makes no difference because it’s special for the organism did they have any little image ing with that cause? It’s nice like when you’re when you’re building the image that’s? Why, if if, if you name it after a person, it’s a little harder to build the image because what you going to put the person’s face on a pin? So i like to use like if you have a special tree or like maybe with this haram a bottle, maybe there’s like a battlefield, a little crest of two crossed guns. Or i don’t know. Okay, i’m gonna ask you don’t have something like that now. No, look at this. Okay, um but yeah, just making the point that doesn’t have to be universally recognised. Its what’s special to your organization, i think that’s yeah, but not too out there because sometimes it’s a little too out there. And i like to do something that, like the great court gate at smith college, you can make things with the great court game. Like you can have that on stationery. You could make a pin out of that it’s a thing. And so i like like the camelia with with pearl s buck. We made a beautiful camelia circle pin and then and that allows you also let’s say you have a new member of your camelia circle. You could have them visit thie greenhouse and talk to the guy that runs the green. You can take a photograph of them and then you could give her her pin in the greenhouse. And you’ve a wonderful photograph for your newsletter that’s. Why i love the pin so much it’s an opportunity, it’s a pr opportunity i find i find donors do like the pins and they wear them, they were them two events and they’re great out of them and they’re proud of them and open and aside from that, they give you something to talk about. So for instance, i do some work for smith college, so we mail a newsletter to existing members of the great court society and in it, i always put a little thing. You’re a picture of the pin, your great court pin. Would you like that? Have you lost your pin? Or would you like an extra pin? Give us a call and we’ll get it. We’ll give you another pen. Say it gives you a little something to talk about to engage your donors because that’s, what it’s all about it’s engaging people, giving them a reason to call you or a reason to send you a little email? Yes, i’ve lost my pin. I’d like a new pin, right? You don’t have a pen, then you can’t talk about it. Um all right. So let’s, let’s. Go, little brother, what else is, uh, what else do you like in plant e-giving marketing besides the recognition society, we got ourselves some more time. I kind of like what you talked about at the beginning about things that you do for free, and that seems to be what i love to do i’ve i’ve started to put together some content, hopefully that will become a book that is all about marketing that you, khun do yourselves. That doesn’t cost you anything that any organization khun d’oh and basically it starts with that thing in the newsletter that says, are we in your will? If we’re in your will or other estate plans, please give us a call even if you wish for your gift to remain anonymous. It’s important that you share this information with us covered these different reasons and that’s, you know that’s free, you can put that in your newsletter you can put that on a buckslip so there’s a lot of things that you could do for free. So i really like to help organisations, whether their teeny tiny or a huge organization are missing the boat sometimes on the good free stuff. Well, if you have a book coming than, uh, share, share something else that’s, easy and free. Well, keep in free my kind of cheap and free i’d like to call it internal pr internal public relations. So? So you want to do more with your with your plan giving you hope to get more bequest? So why not have a little let’s say you’re having? Ah, volunteer, you could have a little volunteered gathering these air like kind of like top people, they’ve been with your organization for a long time. They don’t work for you, but they’re volunteers and their longtime donors you could have a little pizza party on a certain afternoon and invite everyone to the pizza party and say, we have something great that we’d like to share with you. This would be really, really helpful, you know that sometimes people pass away and they leave organizations gifts in there will like that. That cat shelter down the street just got a request for five hundred thousand dollars. Wouldn’t it be great if we got a request like that? And if it goes, oh, yeah, that would be great. And then you just share this simple thing with them and you say here’s something that you can do that’s really, really easy the next time you hear someone say, oh gosh, i’ve been coming here for such a long time and i can only donate ten dollars, a year. I wish i could do more. Well, you have to do nice volunteer is listen for that information and come back to me and share with me that person’s name that’s all you have to dio soc look at what you’ve done there, it’s, great internal pr you’ve you’ve shared this information with a group of people that their prospects as well, these long time volunteers, but you’re not asking them for a gift. You’re just sharing this with them and you’re putting the, you know, the idea and they’re in their head and then you’re giving them a very, very easy way that they can help beyond the way that they’re helping. Right now, all they have to do is listen for this key phrase from a donor. Gosh, i wish i could do more because that’s someone that could potentially be a fantastic plan giving prospect, they can’t give you a lot of money right now, but they might have a retirement plan, life insurance, and they wish they could do more and they wish they could do more so that’s that’s really key? So that’s a little internal public relations thing that you can do doesn’t cost you anything except for maybe a couple pizzas. I love it because you’re most people would call it training, right? It’s not, but internal pr. Oh, it’s, internal pr, it’s and it’s. Not a big deal. It’s not a big deal. Another way to do internal pr is you go to that to the young woman that answers the phone at the front desk at your organization. She’s, twenty seven years old and you say no if you say, you know, kathy, if someone called you up and said, oh, you know, i’m thinking about i’m going to the lawyer and i want to update my will, what would you say to them and cathy? Michael, god, i don’t know, i’ve no idea i’d have to ask somebody. Well, instead, next time someone calls, you know, make sure you refer them to me because here at the organization, i’m the person that that would help them with that. So it’s that’s, another way to do an internal pr is just communicate to key staff members about who’s doing what with the plan giving and you get the word out and i love that you said the person who answers the phones receptionist or somebody like that because they’re they’re talking to donors all the time and sometimes opportunities arise, so just don’t go you don’t know where their right, but you just don’t know who the next person is going to be. That’s talking to a plant, giving potential donor. I’ve gone up to the t to the help desk at a hospital and a huge non-profit beautiful hospital where i live in north carolina, and i went up to the help desk in the volunteer and she’s got the pin on thirty years service, and i said, excuse me, i said, but if i were going to update my will and and include the hospital, i love the hospital, how would i go about doing that? And this woman i know i threw her off, but but not too far because she was she was savvy, and i’ve been around a long time and she said, well, i’m not exactly sure, but i’m i can point you to the person that would be able to tell you that’s perfect, yes, and she gave me the name for the development person a development that’s a home run. So see, she knew so that so the next step after that would be, you know, introduced her to who the plan giving director is. And then she knows, like, a new a new title at the right. But now that that’s that’s the outstanding i mean, that kind of outreach is ideal. Otherwise, that person might have been lost. Well, i don’t really know i’m sorry. I don’t know. I’ve never heard of that. Okay? Feeling hurted, like people have never been mike away and say you might go and say, ok, never mind, you know, let’s. Forget it. Right. Okay. All right. We have just got half a minute. So you want to give us one planned giving marketing tip? Whatever it is related to free, free for all. Well, another really inexpensive thing that you can do is you could. You could have some information on your website that has your request language, your tax i d and all that right. You probably have that. Have your i t person make a little vanity kind of earl fort. So say you’re a s p. C a, you know, in new york dot org’s you could have slash requests or slash plan giving or slash my will or something, and and you have rent that unlike a special little card you could make with on vista print or something or through your organisation, make a special little card and have your title on there your name and title you’re the development director than on the back of the card. You have this little girl, and so when you’re going around and doing your internal pr and you go to the lady at the front desk, you could give her that card and say, well, if someone calls, you can just give them this earl where here’s ten cards and if someone comes before you give him a card or figure out on a donor visit or you’re at it, you’re at a dog wash, you know thing for your a s p c a and the person says, i wish i could do more. You could you know, this is where you know this is. You could send your lawyer here on look hard, so inexpensive and love zoho effective lovett claire meyerhoff planned giving communications and marketing strategist you’ll find her on twitter at claire says c l a i r e as easy, thanks, claire martin. Thank you, tony. Great show. And thanks for being our creative producer as well. It’s it’s it’s an honor and i have it on my lincoln. Thank you very much. All that tony’s take two and deep pockets coming up first pursuing they’re here. Hillary sutton is brand journalist for pursuing in the studio from lynchburg, virginia. Welcome, hillary. Thanks, toni. Excited to be here. Cool. I’m glad you’re excited. Thank you, rob. Very glad to have you were talking about pursuing for weeks. Generous sponsor of the show. Thank you very much for that, i think that’s ah, i think it’s a perfect relationship. Yeah. We’re we’re so excited to be able to support a podcast that provides action oppcoll information to people every week. And it’s. Just really helpful. Absolutely. I mean, look at all the stuff claire shared. Right. Like a dozen things that you could go on. Start taking notes over here. You could start on monday, take the weekend off and start your plan giving marketing and recognition on, eh? Um okay. Interesting title you have pursuing brand journalist. Why is what what is? What is that brand journalist do? Yeah, great question. So i’m a part of our marking team and i get the express honor. Teo, help share the success stories of our clients we it’s really exciting when we get to do we get to come alongside our clients who have big dreams, big visions for changing the world. Really every organization marvin improving the environment. I mean in so many different ways. And so i just love teo, get teo it’s get to connect those dots of how we’re getting to come alongside those clients and and leave the world a better place. Really you’re helping tell the story of how pursuant is helping clients in whatever they’re trying to dance, right, make the world a better, much better place. Okay, cool brand journalist covered that innovative. Alright, um, so you know, you know very well that the audience here is small and midsize non-profits on dh pursuant to the reason i think it’s such an outstanding relationship is because there’s so much that pursuing does that small emissions shops, midsize shops can take advantage of like all the tools, you know, in ala carte tools and things just help amplify it. I mean, i talk about it every week, but, um what? Look, why? How is it that pursuing is always thinking about small and midsize? Sure, while we have a couple of different offerings specifically, our velocity and our billboard are both offerings that just help small and midsize fundraisers work smarter, not harder. We’re going. We’re going to talk a little about velocity because there’s a survey and that’s actually for like, uh, managing your fund-raising and fundraisers. Time against goal, right? Yes. It’s e-giving productivity tool for fund-raising. Exactly. It’s a prospect management system and it’s. Interesting. Because we actually developed in house because we have some gift officers in house and we developed it to make their jobs easier so they wouldn’t spend time, you know, doing the same things over and over again. It simplifies process. It was it was being used by pursuing concerns as they were helping client that’s, right? And so it’s. So cool. I like that. Yeah. Developed internally. And it was so helpful that it was somehow sure we thought we’ve got to share this. Exactly. Okay. Okay. Let’s see, also you mentioned billboard? Yes. Okay. Billboard is our tool that does marketing automation. So it’s it it it’s a fantastic tool to use, you know, at the year. And you don’t have time to send out those emails. Live particular year in giving him so billboard is a tool that could help automate that and automate your non-profit running across its really cross all marketing channels, right kind of helps you develop well, send the messages and then it also has analytics. So you know which channels or productive is that the best mobile is the best e mail? Is this one your social media platforms? You know, etcetera? Exactly. Let’s go back to velocity because there’s a survey that i am going to put on my video next week. So on today’s the ninth, ten eleven, twelve so many the twelfth is going to video. I’m going to talk about the survey and i’ll have a link to it. But velocity, you’re trying to get more information and people can win an ipad air. Yeah, exactly. We just want to hear from fundraisers about some of their pain points. S o we can make our product better to make it to serve fundraisers better. So in exchange for your time, you get entered to win and an ipad ipad and are better. I’ve had a rare yeah, and i i went through the survey. It takes like five minutes. I’d say five, six minutes elearning yeah, there you go. It it’ll help develop the tool. But important that mean the tool is already available now? Yeah. It’s. Just like it’s going to be like improving it. Yeah. Step to face two or something. Okay, cool. Hillary, thank you very much for coming around your way. You’re my pleasure. And thank you again for sponsoring non-profit radio. Happy to do it. The video that hillary and i are talking about the survey and the link will be on tony martignetti dot com by the time you’re hearing this and that’s tony’s take two for friday, ninth of october fortieth show of the year. Here is maria simple with deep pockets. Maria semple is with us. She is the prospect finder, the trainer and speaker on prospect research. Her website is the prospect finder dot com and her book is panning for gold. Find your best donorsearch prospects. Now, she’s our doi end of dirt cheap and free ideas. You can follow her on twitter at maria simple welcome back from vacation, maria. Thanks, tony. Great to be back here with you. I’m glad you are. Where were you on vacation? We took the kids who are both in college. We took them on spring break and went down to riviera. Maya in mexico. Was this a selling vacation? I know you’re an avid sailor. No, it was land based, but it was wonderful. We did get out on a little catamaran to play that they had available at the resort, you know, to take out on your own. Just, you know, a smaller one. There this fun. Now we’re here and where your college kids thrilled about going on spring break with their mom and dad and sitting on the beach instead of being with their friends and drinking beers. Actually, they were they were just fine with it. And, yeah, we won’t address the other part of that. I’m sure if they’re below twenty one that i’m certainly don’t drink beers, right? Well, they they’re they’re of age. They put it that way. Okay. Okay. Um well, i’m glad you’re back. We’re talking about finding pockets of of affluence in communities. This this comes up in your practice, it does, it comes up a lot in, especially when i’m doing seminars or workshops in front of live groups, you’ve inevitably always have somebody raised their hand and say, g, we we really like to know a little bit more about our communities in terms of affluence. What what are the more affluent, zip zip codes? Um, and then, you know, what is philanthropy looking like in general amongst high net worth individuals? So i thought it might be kind of interesting for us to take some time and talk about what some of the resource is our that air available online to kind of examine, you know, both of those areas. Okay, before we go online, is there any chance of starting with your immediate internal resources, like you’re bored? You could could you start there, perhaps? Oh, yeah, absolutely. You could definitely start with your board. What? What i think is usually helpful, though, is if you very often, if if you goto your board and try and have a conversation at a board meeting or a development committee meeting and just kind of say, well, who do you know, give us the names of everyone, you know, you know, sometimes it’s better to kind of have maybe sort of almost a vetted list first to se gi these air, some people we’ve identified or these air some affluent zip codes we’ve identified in our region? Does anybody know any of these people? Or does anybody know anybody in these in these zip codes? Because then now you’re getting them to really focus in on some specific people are specific communities, and then, you know, versus them just trying to figure out who they know in their entire world or roll adex, okay, so we’re going to go online to try to generate thes resource is start t these resources to try to generate lists and, uh, give people names and communities and things like that, too, jog their memories. Yeah, i think i think that works at a little bit better for a lot of boards because a lot of people are a little bit more perhaps reserved. Or they say, well, you know, who is it that you want me to bring to? The table here, give me a little bit more parameter around that. Okay, well, you’re are dyin of dirt, cheap and free. So where should we get started with this? So, you know, the census pulls together a lot of great data about communities, and that really is the basis for a lot of these statistics that you can get regarding not only where income levels are and wealth, but how what the makeup is of the population. Right? So this could have implications not only for the fund-raising side of your non-profit, but also thinking about programs and services that you offer. And, you know, maybe you have certain services that are more geared toward females are more geared towards certain types of populations, maybe immigrants. So you would want to know how you know, what is our population, makeup and how well, with this programme are service you’ve made have a sense that this might be something that you want to offer at your non-profit but not knowing the exact make of of the community you you would probably be, you know, better off just kind of doing a little bit of research to see well, just what? Are the numbers of the people in that community that make up that population? Ok, how do we access the census data? So one source is directly from the census itself. It’s it’s called american fact finder. And the website is a fact finder to roman that’s, the numeral two thie arabic. We know that’s the arabic numerals, right. The arabic numerals, right. Fact finder to dot senses. Stop, gov. Um, so that is a pretty good place to start because what you can actually dio is you can put in your specific zip code that you would like to do a little bit of research on. And you can get information, for example, like the average adjusted gross income for that community versus the entire state. What charitable contribution deductions are in that zip code. So that could be kind of tito that’s. Very interesting. Yeah, it’ll. So i had gone in in prep preparation for this particular show today. I went in and put my own zip code in and saw that the average charitable contributions were three thousand sixty two dollars, right? So if you’re trying to think about where tio really started mining specific communities, it could be an interesting way to see if that how that community compares to other nearby communities, and you can also look at income income statistics. There you can look at income, you can look at average adjusted gross income, you can look att estimated median household income. Andi khun, look att house values as well. So i thought that was kind of interesting because a lot of people will say, well, g, you know it it seems to be that the communities where there might be hyre hyre home values could potentially then translate to higher income brackets and potentially hyre giving as well, yes, interesting. So you can you can play with these different variables of income and assets and charitable deductions average terrible reductions in the right zip code, for example, in my zip code. One thing that i found to be kind of interesting when i looked at the estimated median house value in in two thousand eleven as it was broken down by race, um, the asian community came out highest at just over five hundred seventy five thousand, the next highest level was the white population at four, sixty nine and changed so it was interesting to see how, how even they can break it down by race based on the information found and census data. Okay, and that’s all that fact finder to dot census dot gov, right and another site as well, which is it? City dash data dot com, where you can look at a lot of this broken down, but focusing first on the census site that i mentioned the fact finder site, you can download their data into excel spreadsheet, so i thought that was interesting, because then you can you know, if you if you needed to do any type of reporting at your in you can take those spreadsheets and share them with other people within your organization, be that, you know, staff or or bored, you can also sort you can also sort by different variables, right? Absolutely. And then they also had poverty, statistics and statistics around veterans. So if you were looking to try and figure out where the poverty stats where, you know, maybe you’re trying to develop programming for lower income children in your community or something like that, you can try and take a look at where those stats are also. Some non-profits are addressing the needs of veterans. And so you could try and determine what the numbers of veterans in our communities and trying to come up with programming for that too specific population. Okay, that’s a very good one. I love that one. Ah, yeah. All right. You mentioned city hyphen data. Dot com city data city data dot com there’s a hyphen in there? Absolutely. And i can put these on your facebook page, if you like after the show. Well, yeah, i’m going to do the takeaways and i’ll have a bunch of them. But you, khun, you can then add some or two, you’ll be able to add, add beyond what i what i put in the takeaways. Okay, okay. Terrific. So there again, you can search by zip code and again, you can look at the da’s adjusted gross income figures, charity contributions um, home values again broken down by race and so forth. And you know, you khun a lot of a data, you’ll you’ll note. It’s laid out a little bit differently. So i think what i would say to your listeners is checked. Both of them out. See what type of information it is that you want to pull out of this, um and see if if if the data is going to be useful for you. It’s presented a little bit differently on the two websites. But i have a feeling that the actual core of where all the data is coming from. It’s really? All from the census. Oh, interesting. Ok, same data differently presented. So use both. Lookit lookit. Both. Okay, absolutely. This is an example. You know, i love this example of ah, value that the government provides us through the through the census. Yeah. It’s all it’s all there, it’s free. And so why not take advantage of you know, all of this? All this work legwork somebody else has done for you. What else you got for us? So then i was beginning to think about, well, let’s, look, a philanthropy in general and the mindset, perhaps, of high net worth individuals and two interesting studies that are out there. One is by bank of america. They do a high net worth study. Ah, and the last one was done at the end of two thousand twelve. And another a source that i do want. To give some time to talk about is the chronicle of philanthropy because they did something in two thousand twelve called hyre how america gives you remember that and the make of america’s study, um, is quite lengthy, they do have an executive summaries well, and that girl is a bit longer. So but of course, if you if you just google the bank of america hi network study, you’ll get right to it as well. But what i thought was kind of interesting is that, you know, that they profile how the high net worth individuals are giving now. So where the state of giving wass and at that point in time when they did this study and also how they might be projected to give so i would really encourage the non-profits to take a look at that, especially if they’re looking to, you know, really increase their individual giving program amongst high net worth individuals just to kind of understand where the mind set is for these individuals, okay, so this is sort of after you’ve identified people that this isn’t really to identify pockets of affluence in your community, but how to deal with those affluent. Populations right? Why they why they give what motivates their giving? What motivates they’re getting right? So trying to trying to figure out where they’re giving, where, where might it be going? What is their mindset? So it’s one thing to be able to identify those pockets, but then how do you interact with them? How do you take that data and make it useful for you? Right? So one thing that i found interesting on on one of the pages of the report was that of that particular report was that the high net worth donors are increasing, they’re increasingly directing their gifts towards operating support. Ah, and this is something i get all the time. When i hear at my seminars, people will say, well, you know, the foundations and corporations they really want seem to really want to tie they’re giving to very specific program, nobody wants to fund operating support, but here in this report, they’re saying that they are open to the high net worth individuals are open to ah e-giving you contributions toward operating support. So i think that this is a huge opportunity for non-profits to focus up, because obviously these donors do. Understand about overhead. They understand that there has to be money for the lights and the heat, etcetera, and i think that you can easily direct some of your conversations to that. That sector. All right, we have to. We have to take a break for a couple minutes. Maria, when we come back, we’ll keep talking about these deep pockets, how to find them. We’ll talk about that chronicle of philanthropy survey, and i know that you have some others, so everybody stay with us. Like what you’re hearing a non-profit radio tony’s got more on youtube, you’ll find clips from stand up comedy tv spots and exclusive interviews catch guests like seth gordon. Craig newmark, the founder of craigslist marquis of eco enterprises, charles best from donors choose dot org’s aria finger, do something that worked neo-sage levine from new york universities heimans center on philantech tony tweets to he finds the best content from the most knowledgeable, interesting people in and around non-profits to share on his stream. If you have valuable info, he wants to re tweet you during the show. You can join the conversation on twitter using hashtag non-profit radio twitter is an easy way to reach tony he’s at tony martignetti m a r t i g e n e t t i remember there’s a g before the end, he hosts a podcast for the chronicle of philanthropy fund-raising fundamentals is a short monthly show devoted to getting over your fund-raising hartals just like non-profit radio, toni talks to leading thinkers, experts and cool people with great ideas. As one fan said, tony picks their brains and i don’t have to leave my office fund-raising fundamentals was recently dubbed the most helpful non-profit podcast you have ever heard, you can also join the conversation on facebook, where you can ask questions before or after the show. The guests were there, too. Get insider show alerts by email, tony tells you who’s on each week and always includes link so that you can contact guests directly. To sign up, visit the facebook page for tony martignetti dot com. Maria simple. I want to thank you for including a picture of me on your the prospect finder micro fiber cleaning cloth. Thank you. Like that. I do. I don’t know how i feel about my face being smeared across people’s monitors and smartphones, but but i think there’s a little picture of you and me in the studio, on the arm, on your cleaning cloth. Thank you very much. You’re very welcome. Very welcome. So i decided that sometimes that some of my speaking engagements i might be able to hand that out and be a nice little thing that people could keep and think about our faces for years to come. And i noticed, too. If i if i stretch it vertically, it makes me look hydrocephalus. Oh, my goodness, i haven’t tried there, and if you stretch it horizontally, then looks like i’ve gained about one hundred twenty five pounds. Can i send out some listener lovas? Well, three times? Well, because of your show, i was asked to go and speak to women in philanthropy of western massachusetts back in february, and they’re huge fans of your show. And so i just wanted to give a shout out to them and say hi, thank you very much with women in women in philanthropy, western mass, and they’ve invited me to come, but they’re booked until, like, next mayor april or something like that. Twenty fifteen not talking about this year. They’re booked until spring of next year sometime. So tired. Organized group. Yeah, i have time to make my reservations. Um okay. Let’s. Go back to our our deep pockets. Was there anything more you want to say about the bank of america study of high net worth philanthropy or we finished with that? No. You know, it’s very in depth. Really good projections. I found on pages sixty three to sixty five of the study of how they’re giving now and how they’re projected to give. So people are feeling a little overwhelmed with the study and they want to at least try and figure out where’s. What does this all mean for me? And where should i go with it? I would say they should focus on pages three to sixty five study that’s incredibly valuable, because and so is the fact that you said earlier there’s an executive summary, because if i was listening. And i heard sixty five pages in a survey. I think i’d move on to your next suggestion. But that’s, just me. But it is called the bank of america study of high net worth philanthropy. And as marie said, you khun, search for that and get it for free. What do we got over the chronicle of philanthropy? This how america gives thing. So what they did back in two thousand twelve, they, uh, they decided to make an entire map of the united states. You can put in your zip code and get a lot of data on where philanthropy is for those specific zip code. So i thought that was kind of interesting because, as you know, the chronicle is one of those resource is that a lot of people really rely on. Um so when i gone in, i put my zip code in. I took a look at they give a breakdown by total contributions. What the median contribution is. And then they also give you the median discretionary income. Um, andi give it as a percentage. They give you the percentage of income given, so i thought that was was pretty good. They give a breakdown as well by demographic. So do you just have an idea? You can look at a breakdown by age, race as well as education level of the population, just in case that was of interest to you. And they give a breakdown by income level of giving. So if you wanted to see, like, they break it down between the people who make between fifty, the study, basically start assuming on income level of at least fifty thousand. So fifty thousand to one hundred and one hundred, two hundred, two hundred and up and then all income levels help me understand how you would use all these sites. And i know there’s another one, one or two. We’re going to get to, but some claim gives you ah, project a task i need. How would you use all these different sites? You go to all of them. Or do you? You find some from some sites and other info from other sites. How do you approach this? Well, it really depends on what specific piece of information they want. Most of the time they’re giving me the name of an individual. Teo actually profile for them and other times they might come to me and say, well, you know, we’re interested in expanding and doing some proactive prospecting, you know, where are some of the more affluent neighborhoods that we should be looking to perhaps hold cultivation event? Um, sent mailers out, too, so they’re just trying to identify what are those pockets near them that they should be potentially targeting if they want to get into some proactive prospect and get some new names of people associated with their organization? Right? And if that’s your that’s, your charge, the ladder to find those pockets, how would you how would you approach that? So i would probably go teo, both fists chronicle of philanthropy study, as well as the census data, to try and identify where those hyre income levels are, and both of those locations where people are giving more so they be more of ah, i guess the more likelihood of success if they’re both approaching people with higher incomes and also are accustomed to giving hyre levels of money. Who okay, okay on and then, of course, you have to devise. You know what is going to be our plan if we want to? Go to that entire zip code. What? You know what? What are we going to do? Are we going to devise a mailer to go to all the households? There’s an every door direct program, for example, that the post office runs where you can target specific zip codes? Um, every every door direct, no shoot. Right? We’re out of time. Let’s. Hold that every door. Direct, let’s, let’s talk about that next time and unfortunately have to leave it there. So there are some other resource is that you have, which we will include you can add to the to the takeaway is that i do on the facebook page. Okay, sure. Absolutely. Thank you very much. Maria simple. The prospect finder at the prospect finder dot com. And on twitter at marie a simple thank you, maria. Thank you. Time for mohr live listener love lots of new live listen has joined us from carmel, indiana live listener love out to you especially and zoho in new wendorf, germany. 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Oh, hi there! Hello and welcome to tony martignetti non-profit radio big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent i’m your aptly named host it’s a two hundred fifty of show who this is going to be a great one. We have a new sponsor pursuant, they’re a full service fund-raising agency with lots of tools and intelligence for small and midsize shops organisations just like yours pursuing dot com they’re a perfect fit with our mission and our listeners i’ll have more to say about them later. Welcome pursuant, our newest sponsor. Oh, i’m glad you’re with me! I’d be stricken with familial history. Oh cited articulos iss, if i inherited the mere notion that you missed today’s show it’s, our two hundred fiftieth show and fifth anniversary with me as co host is going to be claire meyerhoff she’s, our creative producer, we have music, comedy, giveaways and fast talking. All our regular contributors are going to be with us that’s maria simple she’s here in the studio jeans, akagi and amy sample ward going to call in, plus the composer of our theme music, scott stein and fast talking auctioneer and bid caller bobby d elearning. Who is going to win the work? We cuss a walking challenge between me and adam weinger you’re going to be glad you’re with us on tony’s steak too. I got to say thank you farewell to our sponsor opportunity collaboration, thie unconference on poverty alleviation that will ruin you for every other conference it’s not until october and their ninety three percent sold out so glad that non-profit radio helped them get that far. I’m going to be there. I’m gonna be at this unconference in x top of mexico in october if making connections with people reducing poverty will help you do your work, check it out quickly because it is definitely going to sell out opportunity collaboration dot net, thanks so much for having been a sponsor non-profit radio. You can join today’s show on twitter were live tweeting the show use the hashtag non-profit radio i am, uh i’m pretty thrilled about today. One of the reasons i’m thrilled we have to cool guests in the studio who you know on going to bring on first claire meyerhoff she is non-profit radios creative director was anybody hearing what i just said? Teo okay, i don’t okay. This is live and we got a problem with my mike it’s. Been working for two hundred fifty, two hundred forty nine shows on two. Fifty it’s not it’s, not up to the task. Um all right. I’m gonna introduce claude meyerhoff again because people should know that aside from being the show’s creative director, she has a deep background in radio w t o p in washington, cnn’s washington bureau, abc radio and hosted serious except nash’s editorial director at plan giving marketing now. Okay. Marketing specialist just in case. And if people heard me introduce you twice, i think that’s fine. I don’t mind that. And on twitter, she’s at claire says that’s easy. Yes, since i was calling it ah, the first couple shows were the tony martignetti show and yeah, i was not as well known as george clooney. Right? So you’re making ad non-profit radio and now it’s on the mic flags it’s on everyone’s. Cool. Thank you. Since the very beginning since we had dinner at ruth’s chris and cary north and i said, you know, i i i’d like to do something like this. Yes. You try to talk me out of it. Maria semple is also here in the studio, as she is the prospect finder. Of course, our monthly contributor on prospect research trainer and speaker on that subject prospect researcher website is the prospect finder dot com. Her book, which is now a free download on her site, grab it it’s valuable panning for gold. Find your best donorsearch prospects now because she’s working on a new book, which we’re going to hear about she’s our doi end of dirt cheap and free ideas follow her on twitter at maria simple welcome to studio maria! Hey there! Thanks for having me today. So cool i’m glad you’re here. We’re always talking on the phone. Absolutely. And s so excited to be here for the two hundred fiftieth shows his good stuff. Thank you very much. You i went back. You were first on non-profit radio on october first, two thousand ten so almost five years ago, you were you were ah, guest. Then that was that was our twelfth show two. Fifty today. That was chilling over twelve. And then you started becoming a monthly regular contributor with the august twelfth, two thousand eleven show. That’s good stuff, so call it four years. Let’s. Go. Next month will be a four year anniversary. Absolutely. Oh, and you know, you brought some of your top tips were going to talk about throughout the show. So you will have some, uh, some ideas from our doi n of dirt, cheap and free. Um, let’s. See where we are? Um, i think it’s ah, it’s. Time to give away something we got. We got a bunch of giveaways for today. And our first giveaway is a bag of cura coffee. And this is going to maxine smeaton. She messaged me, quote, i live in london but came to a foundation center event you presented when i was in new york city. I’ve been downloading the podcast ever since. Thank you. Oh, no, maxine thank you, back-up cure coffee is going to be coming your way. Cura does great great work with dental care for their coffee being farmers and crime are off one to tell us little more about your culwell. Cura coffee directly connects coffee lovers with farmers and families who harvest the finest organic coffee beans. With every cup of cura, you join our effort to expand sustainable dental care. Two. Remote communities around the world, we are direct trade goodcompany with direct impact, brought directly to you, creating organic smiles beyond the cup. That’s. Beautiful. What a trained voice. So, maxine, congratulations, you’re going to get a bag of coffee from kira, and i thank you very, very much, maxine, for loving non-profit radio. Thanks for downloading it and listening all this time, one of our one of our ten thousand plus podcast listeners, and we’re going to, we’re going to do it live. Listen, love, of course, we got tons of live listeners, that’s, that’s, of course, going to be coming along with affiliate affections and podcast pleasantries. Let’s. See, i would. I would like to move to we have some some music. Scott stein plays is the writer income of the composer and singer of cheap red wine. And that is our theme song. And scott, unfortunately, is booked with a gig. He’s actually, music directing a show here in new york called held momentarily. About six strangers stuck on a stalled subway car. That’s why it’s called held momentarily because if you’re in the subways in new york, we are being held momentarily due to traffic ahead of us it’s, a musical comedy and it’s, part of the new york musical theater festival. And if you are interested, you can find tickets at n y m f dot or ge because our scott stein is music director for that show held momentarily on de so i went to his studio. I recorded him. And here is scott stein. Scott’s time. Welcome to the two hundred fiftieth show. So glad you could be part. Well, thank you for having me and congrats on two. Fifty. Thank you. This is a really nice milestone for thank you. You’ve been with me. Uh, well, the music has been and through you, it’s, been probably a couple of years now, i think, yeah, that sounds about right, it’s, uh, it’s, what i have been with you sort of say in spirit, but i would have been sort of bits and pieces and then, but in person while i was there for two hundred, right two hundred now, for an effort to fit your needs, and your and i have your music licensed, yes, is not something i’m beautified, yeah, that’s, a little it’s, all open up on dh. You know, i just i love this song, so wait here. Cheap red wine. Yes, we can go on on your upright in your studio. Apartness is hints, apartment studio, i should say no, but it’s, a one bedroom apartment studio, and, indeed, all right, here we go. They just keep talking. So later. I think around just what you mean? You sing a romantic advice from a bill on france’s among tv. Wait. Oppcoll work-life used charming buy-in finger. No way. Wait, just wait! Wait, strike! Tio, wait! Buy-in wait, duitz you used to wear. Wait bonem today. No way! Nobody else. No way! Wait! Yeah, you know, used kayman hyre. Wait, wait! Wait. I love it. Thank you very much. Scott. Yeah. Pleasure. Thanks, man. Thanks so much for being part of two. Fifty. Yeah, thanks for having me. And for, you know, supporting supporting your independent artist. Like make? Absolutely. Thank you. All right. Cool. Scott stein. So glad you could be part of the show. Scott is awesome. You’re so lucky to have him he’s. So talented. She bread, wine. I love that show. The other people. Yeah, yeah. It’s a it’s a cool song. It’s ideal. Okay, we’re gonna go away for a couple minutes. Break coming up. Maria has got some prospect research tips. We got more giveaways, comedy and that work. We cuss a walking challenge me versus adam weinger let’s see who’s going to win? I think i’m gonna wipe the floor with him. Stay with us. What’s not to love about non-profit radio tony gets the best guests. Check this out from seth godin this’s the first revolution since tv nineteen fifty and henry ford nineteen twenty it’s the revolution of our lifetime here’s a smart, simple idea from craigslist founder craig newmark. Yeah insights, orn presentation or anything? People don’t really need the fancy stuff. They need something which is simple and fast. When’s the best time to post on facebook facebook’s andrew noise nose at traffic is at an all time hyre on nine a, m or p m so that’s, when you should be posting your most meaningful post here’s aria finger ceo of do something dot or ge young people are not going to be involved in social change if it’s boring and they don’t see the impact of what they’re doing. So you got to make it fun and applicable to these young people look so otherwise a fifteen and sixteen year old they have better things to do if they have xbox, they have tv, they have their cell phones. Me dar is the founder of idealist took two or three years for foundation staff to sort of dane toe add an email address their card. It was like it was phone. This email thing is fired-up that’s why should i give it away? Charles best founded donors choose dot or ge somehow they’ve gotten in touch kind of off line as it were and and no two exchanges of brownies and visits and physical gift mark echo is the founder and ceo of eco enterprises. You may be wearing his hoodies and shirts. Tony talked to him. Yeah, you know, i just i i’m a big believer that’s not what you make in life. It zoho, you know, tell you make people feel this is public radio host majora carter. Innovation is in the power of understanding that you don’t just put money on a situation expected to hell. You put money in a situation and invested and expect it to grow and savvy advice for success from eric sacristan. What separates those who achieve from those who do not is in direct proportion to one’s ability to ask others for help. The smartest experts and leading thinkers air on tony martignetti non-profit radio big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent. Welcome back to big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent in our two hundred fifty of non-profit radio got to do the got to do the live listen love gadsden, alabama, st louis, missouri. Hubert, north carolina. Augusta, maine. San francisco, california, philadelphia, pennsylvania and there are others. But to those listeners in those cities live listener love going to you, let’s, go abroad. Lindenhurst, new york that’s not abroad. I’m sorry. That’s long island that’s. Never yeah, and clear mind talking about it, perhaps along falik no, i’m talking about i’ve listened to love to lindenhurst and also beaumont, texas live listen, love but now we can go abroad tokyo always checking in, always grateful for our tokyo listeners live listener love, konichiwa also, seoul, south korea multiple soul listeners, as always remarkable. So loyal anya haserot, you are korean listeners. Marie samples got cem, some prospect research tips. Did you? What did you do? Go back and comb your four years of non-profit radio? Or what would you do? No, no. You know, i decided to just pull out cem cem tips that i’d be using if i were just talking to somebody or just doing a speaking engagement, just sort of the top sites that i think people should be aware of. So i brought a few those with me today. If you want me to talk about yes, you’re our diet of dirt cheap. So talk about talk about a sight. Okay, great. So, you know, i’m a fan of talked about this before setting up alerts, so i wanted to remind everyone that you set up those google alert it’s and, uh, the other two that i’ve been actually getting a lot more hits on since i set it up for your show to test it actually was talk walker dot com and mentioned dot net, i get so many more hits on that than i do on google alerts and ah, on the reason why i had tested it a couple of years ago on your show was because i i’d read an article that google might be doing away with their alert service at some point, right? We talked about it, and even even if they hadn’t done away with it, it was not very robust, right? It was disappointing. Yeah, yeah. And then the results continue. Tio go down, down, down. So i i i definitely love the talk walker dot com. And so my my advice around, though, using those would be set him up for your top ten donors, you know, put their names in in an alert so that if something comes up about them, you can call them, congratulate them, you know, hopefully not commiserates, but okay. And i’ve since we talked about it i’ve been using both of those i used talk walker and mentioned dot net different ones because they give each allow you a couple for free. You have different alert set up on each of those cool. What else? Well, so well, i thought we would also spend a few minutes talking about nosa knows a search because it’s ah it’s definitely one of those sites that has both a a free and a fee based component to it. So for free, you could do some foundation research on knows that site, but it’s also a great compilation, ifyou’re doing individual research, esso they have various levels where you could either pay for a month or pay for a year. So it’s a good pay as you go type of service. So that’s why i kind of think it falls under that dirt cheap. Okay, it’s a little more about noser so knows that enables you to go in and input an individual’s name, for example, and be able to actually find out if they’ve given any major gifts to any organizations. So it’s an opportunity to as you’re doing in depth donorsearch research on those heiner hyre net worth individuals find out where they’re donating gifts tomorrow. If this sounds a valuable stuff, right? Well, i’m thinking about about how we might apply it to our plan. Giving marketing. Yeah, absolutely. I would really like to know more about our donors. Yeah, absolutely. So, it’s it’s a pretty valuable service. So it’s ah, i think it falls under blackbaud not if i’m not mistaken, but it’s certainly an opportunity for you to check it out because they have both free and be based stuff. So okay, so there is a there is some free to it, right? Yeah. In keeping with the door. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, we have ah, i believe we have any sample ward has called in. Maybe sabat ward, you know? Hey, i’ve been on for a while. I wasn’t sure how could most nicely interrupt? No, no. Okay. You’ve been out for a while. All right? Well, i’m not sure sam saw you, but i’m glad you’re there. We gotta introduce you, of course. Ceo of non-profit technology network and ten, which runs that very cool non-profit technology conference where we got hundreds. Well, twenty five. Outstanding. Excellent. Smart people interviews her most. Recent co authored book, social change. Anytime everywhere. And you can follow her on twitter at amy rs ward hello. Hello, you have you have been on non-profit radio since the one hundredth show? That’s when that was the first show you were on. Exactly. I i know i’m so i was actually thinking about it today to interview shows. I started to do the mental map, and then i decided to not do the mental map of how long has he been that’s? Well, it’s three years, we do fifty shows a year. Yeah. And you’ve been since the hundred. So to fifty minus one hundred. One hundred fifty, divided by three. Yeah. Uh, i mean divided by fifty three years. Yes. Oh, that’s, uh, that’s. A good run. Thank you so much for being on the show almost every month. Oh, my gosh. Thank you for not getting tired of me after three years. Yeah, well, you know, what’s going on there it and ten. What do you guys focus in on out there in portland, oregon? Well, i’m currently calling you from a rest stop on the side of the highway because max tonight are on vacation. With your husband. You know you’re doing this for us while you’re on vacation? Yeah. I mean, we’re just getting started. You being on the highway out of at a rest area. Alright. Where where are you? What city or what, highway? Well, i have no idea what city. I don’t know that this is a city there’s, mostly forest. Um, are you in oregon? We’re on highway ninety seven. Are you in oregon? Even were still in oregon. Okay. You’re in oregon, southern oregon. Okay. Okay. Where you headed on this great vacation where we’re headed down to lake tahoe. Oh, my that’s. A long drive you got you got nice. You’ve got a long drive. It is? Yeah, about about a third of the way through. Already got up early. Yeah, but i think back in the office, you know, everybody’s pretty excited. Because last week was the orientation week for the sixteen vigil inclusion fellows. So those sixteen folks, they’re all now post orientation out in their eight different cities, working with their host organizations on digital inclusion programs so that that piece is all in motion. And now everybody’s kind of locked in planning for the september conference. The leading change summit. Okay. Yes. Which i will be at. I have my own my charity registration web idea. I’ll bring bring wireframe and looking for some beta testers when we get to that stage. So yeah, you know, i’m gonna be with you for a leading changing when we’re doing that september, right? Thirteen. Sixteen. Number thirteen through sixteen. Thirty dc. I remember that’s, right? Ok. Yeah. Ok. Well, listen, i want to thank you. So i want thank you so much for doing this while you’re on vacation. Give our regards. Send non-profits and live listener. Loved to max, your husband, please. I will and drive safely and have a wonderful, wonderful time in lake tahoe. Awesome. Thank you. And you all have a wonderful time finishing the rest of the two hundred fifty it’s. So yes, we are a great time. Thank you so much, amy. Thanks, everybody. Bye bye. Any sample ward got lover ceo of inten non-profit technology network tomorrow. If you gave quite a little, you and other have you been to a lake tahoe? I happen to like zoho it’s, one of my favorite beautiful places. Why? Why? I have never been tell tell may well, like north lake tahoe is kind of cool because you have, like, the old fashioned cal naval lodge and that’s where, like maryland and and and sinatra hung out. And the county va lodge actually straddles the state line of california and nevada. So there’s like a line right through. So it’s just, you know, it’s kind of a historical place. It’s also, if you if you’re a fan of godfather one, i believe it is. Is that when there are no two is that we move to? Yeah, but when michael was in charge of the family, yeah, they’re in late, and they get the house gets shot up and stuff that’s, that’s like tahoe as well. So, you know, if you’re a fan of the godfather siri’s, as i am okay, okay. Yeah, like like tahoe. You like cuba? You like all the all the settings were going to give away? We have another giveaway, claire. And, uh, we’re gonna give away the plant e-giving marketing prize, which is? Well, we congratulations to the winner of the prize sponsored by the company that i work for planned giving a marketing that’s pg marketing dot com were based in pennsylvania. We helped all kinds of non-profits with their plan giving marketing, we are not part of the plan giving industrial complex. Okay, we actually help you, and so please visit our website. We have a great gift for you. It is a fifty dollars, these a gift card, a cool and that is going to give mohr twenty four in vancouver, washington, because, you know, they’re just they were just so sweet. They tweeted happy birthday non-profit radio and i just thought that was so sweet, you know, it’s it’s simple, but it says it it’s one of my birthday non-profit radio so they are at give maur twenty for they are a e-giving day is coming up in september, i think of september fifteenth for their region, but but certainly check him out on twitter and you tell me a little bit more about that organization that more twenty for about, um, well, that’s. Why i was just saying that they’re they’re supporting a because i have a processing issue important, and i’m still processing it. They they are about a local giving day ah e-giving day around the vancouver washington area. Trying to get people to, you know, like like like so they help all charities in the vancouver area. Yeah, charity that’s all charities in current cooper washington, which is not vancouver, canada. Course that knows the state of washington state’s, our vancouver are very on vancouver and you could check them out because they’re given more twenty four on twitter at give more twenty four give for twenty four number two fundchat better. I’m going to tweet them right? Just like you are at clare says it’s easy. Okay, okay, i will do that. All right, um, we have, ah, a little something. Claire, since you are a plan e-giving marketing specialist, i, uh, have a question that i want teo very, very important plan giving marketing question about whether whether it’s smart to be including charitable gift annuity rates on in marketing right in your marketing. Well, you know, when you’re promoting a charitable gift annuity no, what is that? Oh, my god, what’s happening? What? What is happening? I believe, uh, you know, i think i think we’re in the future, tony, tony, we’re in the future because, you know, you have a lot more gray hair, but thankfully, you still have a lot of hair. I don’t think that was possible that we could come to the future. You have fallen into a time and tunnel it’s june twenty fourth, twenty, forty five, twenty, forty five clear that makes me eighty three and that makes me thirty seven i don’t know, i don’t feel a day over eighty one and your hair is still belong. Well, that’s, because in the future they have a magic stick that you just wave over your head and and you have beautiful golden highlights and deep rich base color sabat hello and welcome to tourney martignetti non-profit radio big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent it’s our one thousand four hundred fifty it show and i’m your aptly named host. Oh, i’m glad you’re with me. I’d be stricken with benign prostatic hyperplasia if wait a minute. I am stricken with benign prostatic hyperplasia bph i got it! It doesn’t matter whether you listen, i’ve got it so let’s. Leave the diseases alone. It’s, our one thousand four hundred fiftieth show. And i’m glad claire meyerhoff is my co host today. God, claire, your hair looks great. Thank thanks so much. And you know, tony, i got to the studio a little bit late because you know, am tracks. Bullet train was delayed. It took me twenty minutes to get here to get to new york city from d c can you believe that? I know twenty minutes. That’s. Incredible, incredible. Oculus. Well, there’s, no way to run a way to run. I’m gonna call it. I’m gonna call joe biden’s great grandson. But that’s okay. We are hosted by google mind warp. Of course. So now time is meaningless. Grand love that so let’s get started. We’re talking about how eighteen million non-profits khun stay relevant now that poverty has been eradicated. Universal hyre education is free, global warming has been solved. And then amazing global cooling was headed off. The palin panels eliminated all disease. Turns out sara was much smarter than people give her credit for it’s. So sad that she died in that tragic ego explosion and all our historical sites are funded by the trump foundation for old buildings. I haven’t torn down yet. And you know what? All the homeless dogs and cats have homes every child can read. When when? What is it that sort of thing? That trump was elected president? I don’t know. I was around like your four hundred four hundred show. It was sometime around there. I think it was. Was he before or after that first black president? What? What was his name? I think his name was obama, not president sasha obama. President barack obama’s obama first one obama senior, right, that’s, right. And then it was sasha came a few after him. And who was the president before that? And then i think it was trump. Well, trump was somewhere in there before. Oh, yeah, president for her, for her, something remember is very short term president. He didn’t last one term. That guy was beached. I mean, converting the lincoln bedroom to a casino. I know. And, you know, it was amazing because i remember at the republican national convention that year he came out to announce his vice presidential choice and he was like, okay, oh, you idiots, i got news for you. I’m going. I’m going to tell you who my who? My vice presidential candidates going. Toby he’s going to do amazing things going kick congress in the butt he’s going to be fantastic. Here he is. I’d like to announce my choice for vice president of the united states. Missed a gary abuse e i e o i remember. Yeah, it was right for that’s. Come. I forgot all about that, but yes, from president then and then he fired him on inauguration day. I know that was great. You’re fired, right, right after three inaugurations, like noon by twelve. Fifteen that the guy was fired. Yeah. And you know, trump did all these other things too, like, remember he there were those. There were the hearings, the senate judiciary committee hearings for that supreme court justice. And they were they were asking him a lot of questions, and i thought, oh, this guy is never going to get confirmed. But then, you know, supreme court justice, meatloaf did a great thing. He started singing hey started singing paradise by the dashboard light and then senator elizabeth warren remember she like god and meet lo slap and did they do? With, you know i want wait no that’s a different song, but paradise by the dashboard light that’s a cool one that’s a great and that’s s o they were singing, you know, trump really? You know, when it comes to non-profits especially like a you know, he just teaches wrecked things, didn’t and he also wrecked a lot of our beautiful national landmarks. Well on, give the guy credit. We have that water slide going down the grand canyon, right? The trump water slide that’s the grand canyon on a park and he you know, he’s. He did get his face put on mount rushmore, although they have chiseled it off. So that was good. I gave ten dollars to that on go fund me. Remove remove the fifth face removed the room. Remember it. The billboards removed the fifth bullet. They gotta go fund me dot com ten dollars. All my friends, i put it on facebook. Remember facebook? I know so so. And sometimes you get into these like dramas with people from high school where people like criticized it was terrible, it’s that now we don’t need no way have that mental telepathy thing where we all just know, whatever i was thinking it was cool for a run. I mean, it brought people together, you know, i i deserve whatever that guy’s name was, i can’t remember, but, you know, he made a lot of money, but it just didn’t just in last, i mean, the advertising took over and people just obviously migrated away. Yeah, and now we have the mind meld, and so we just, like, i just think something like tony is going to take us out to lunch and then it happens i don’t have to put it on facebook like, hey, maybe tony will take us to lunch, i just think it remember that remember that trump presidential library with the with a swim up bar and the song? Yeah, yeah, and then he had the follicle transplant center in the presidential library, remember? And and you know what? This is the first thing i remember about trump that really affected non-profits because a lot of my clients really got mad, so he came up with that whole directory of, like, best practices for non-profits and he said and he said, and i and i remember him being on tv. He was announcing. It goes yet, you know. So this is the number one thing. I think you should offer. Fi, you development directors and hyre showgirls. That’s what that would be best pregnant, raised more money that way, if you had, if you had the showgirls, its development, people waving the future because we’re headed back, we’re going back. We’re headed back cool, oh my god, wow, and, you know, we learned so much we learned we learned about when we went to the future, we learned about the past, we learned what happened when oh, no, no, it was that government can be. It can’t be that had to be like the mushrooms. I don’t think so, yeah, it’s not going to have the crystals, but that was a cool that was a cool look at the future. Don’t you think it was that gold thing? Things are gonna be good in the future. They are. So we’ve got what we have now. Really? Okay, i think now, back in back in show two, fifty, um, let’s. Uh let’s go to aa a lot more coming up, but i have to spend a little time talking about pursuing but we have other stuff coming up, jean chicago’s going to calling in their work. We work, we hustle eyes coming. 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I have to say thank you, i just have tio spent my tony’s take two saying thank you to everybody who is such a terrific supporter of the show, whether you’re getting my email alerts in your inbox every week or you’re listening live like lots of people do so regularly or listening from one of our affiliate stations throughout the country or the podcast, you know, however it is. Youre supporting the show, spreading the word on twitter, facebook so grateful really two hundred fifty shows five years there’s no way we’d be where we are if there wasn’t just tremendous support for non-profit radio, so i’m so glad that it brings value too small and midsize shops. I always always have you in mind when i’m thinking about guests when i’m putting together to show trust me small and midsize shops first the first time last that’s that’s, who’s who’s on my mind so i want to thank all of you for ah let’s support five years worth. Thank you so much. And that is tony’s take two for friday twenty fourth of july sorry, yeah. Twenty fourth of july and twenty ninth show of the year we got jean takagi uh, chicago’s on the line. Jim takagi, how are you doing? I’m doing great. Tiny. Congratulations on to fifty. Thank you. So, so much. Gene is our longest running contributor to non-profit radio hyre he and it’s, the very popular law non-profit law blawg dot com. And uh, he’s, the principal attorney at neo-sage non-profit and exempt organizations law group in san francisco and on twitter he’s at g tak. Gene, you have been with me since july twenty seventh, two thousand eleven. Longest running contributor. That’s fantastic. Tony the time. Where’s the time gone. It’s. Incredible. Four years every month. Um, i’m just so grateful. You know, we, uh we started. I went back with the first topic we covered together was so you want to start a non-profit which seemed like a logical place to start. Yeah. I mean, you know, just thank you so much, gene, for taking time to prepare every week and for being with me with us every single week for every single month. Everybody that’s, right? Every every month. Yeah, i don’t really read inviting your more off. Thank you. What what’s going on? There neo-sage what your clients are. Concerned about, but they’re few things going on night. One of the things that were really excited about is that board source has listed advocacy as a keyboard responsibility earlier this week, and they just updated their their seminal book on dad possibilities of non-profit boards and for the first time, advocacy became a keyboard responsibility and we think that’s that’s just great. So that’s one big advocacy, okay, we’ve talked about that lots of times, and maria simple and i have talked about boards being advocates, right? Marie? Absolutely being friendraising er’s advocates out in the community mirriam you and i have talked about that a lot online ambassadors, right? Yeah, absolutely. There, there you’re you’re they should be it at least your biggest and best right? What else do you know about? Oh, sorry. God. Sorry. Uh, i was just going to concur with both of you on that and apart from the friendraising and fund-raising some serious issues that might affect all non-profits and we’ve been kind of leading some advocacy efforts on that, both on the state level, for us with cal non-profits on the national level with the national council was non-profits and some others. As well. And then some of those provisions air, like the charitable deduction provisions that are congress is looking at right now and and where those air going. There’s, charitable registration requirements, better being promulgated by the state. Um, that are becoming a little bit more scary for non-profits if some of these things go through, it would be like if you fail to, you know, be missed a filing and you continue to operate, we might hold your board members liable for needing to operate on that suspension period. Also, scary things happening that that non-profits have a chance to push back on. And when, when you’ve got board members and others, you know who are willing to advocate on your behalf, beneficiaries, that that you’re serving, it can really make it. Okay, okay, so there’s gonna be a lot for us to be talking about in the in the coming months. That’s always okay. Okay. Hyre all right, jean, i really i want to thank you very much. Thanks for thanks so much for being part of the two fiftieth and and and so, you know, such a long running history. Thank you. So, so much great. Thank you so much. And have a great rest of the show. It’s. A pleasure. Thank you, jean. Thanks a lot, maria let’s. Spend a couple minutes on. Ah, couple more your, uh, your tips for prospect research. Okay, good. So so this tip has to do with visiting your local library. You’ll remember i’m a huge proponent, our local lagers. And so one of the online database is that i really love that the library is called reference yusa. Esso. I really wanted to bring that back as a reminder for everyone. Because it’s a source that will allow you to really find business owners in the community find businesses themselves in the community. And you can actually you can get is as focused as looking for them within a specific zip code. You can open it up to a county wide search. A state wide search. So it’s really? I think it’s. A great way to do what i like to call that proactive prospecting. So if you’re trying to get some new lists and maybe if people to send invitations to within specific industries and invitations for maybe an upcoming walk or a gala or something that you’re having, i think that that’s a really terrific resource. Great one reference, yusa reference. Use a dot com. Well, if you go to reference, use a dot com. It is a fee based resource, but many, many libraries will carry it. It’s usually accessible, right, using your your bar code on your library card, you can access it for free. So, you know, in keeping with our free theme, of course, i know you love the library’s. Yeah, what else is on your list? Eso you know, i’m always always a fan of also giving linked in some love wanted to remind everyone to go to non-profits dot linked in dot com because they’ve got tons of great resource is for you on that on that site. Andi, you could do a lot of proactiv prospecting there is well, you get access to the fee based version for free as a non-profit esso. I would really encourage you to take a look at non-profits darlington dot com see what they have there on take advantage of the proactive prospecting you. Khun dio i think the sp one of the early times if it wasn’t the very first time i met you was when you were doing a panel on linked in for non-profits years ago. Like at the westchester county. A f p or something? Yeah, you there were. There were a couple of you jerry stengel was on. Yes, and mark and mark. Mark that’s. Right. Exactly. Mark helping mark helper. Thank you. Yeah, that may have been i don’t know if that was the very first time. No, i wasn’t. The first time was when we had met, but i think we were all three of us were on your show. You were phil. You were saying filming, but you were taping from now on. We’re doing this show from there. And you did have a song because we did do what we did. Cope. Present a panel together on the topic of lincoln’s. Okay, and then we used it on the show. All right. We’ve got just a minute or so left before we gotta move to our next give away. We got to get away coming up there, meyerhoff you’re not you’re honest. You’re on deck. Man on deck. What can you tell us in a in a minute, maria? Well, in another minute, i just want to remind everyone to ah, to make sure that you’re finding out whatever your library has for free. Take advantage of all the different ways you can set up a google searches and really focusing them down so that you’re getting the search results that matter to you. Ah, you’re only interested in where somebody is ah, connected to a non-profit make sure you filter it down to include site, colon, dot or ge ahh and then that’ll just bring up the search results on a person’s name where they’re connected to a dot or giff you’re trying to find out where they’ve donated or where they’re spending their volunteer time. Outstanding. Cool. Thank you very much. Let’s. Give something away. Uh, this is going to mak pritchard because he was so generous. He blogged his top social change podcasts and don’t you know named non-profit radio he’s number one i love that that’s also. Mac. Mac pritchard, you are going to get a bag of cure a coffee with every cup of curare, you join our effort to expand sustainable dental care to remote communities around the world. Cure a coffee. Frankly, they’re just the best. Thank you, kara mara there because they’re like i said earlier they were doing this dental care for their for their coffee growing farmers. They had just done something in nicaragua that they sent a dental team of sixty people to nicaragua, unopened five dental clinics while they were there. Incredible. There, there they’re walking the walk of cura. Um, we got a couple minutes. Tio have a little. We’ll chat time, but sam says are not too much time. Okay, then, uh, that’s, that’s, that’s, the end of the chat and let’s go to a break coming up after the break, coming up after the break. Yes, thank you, ladies, thank you so much. Coming up after the break, we got the work week hustle walking challenge. Bobby d l is going to be joining us and adam weinger goingto watch me wipe the floor with that. A weinger. I hope, anyway, stay with us. Like what you’re hearing a non-profit radio tony’s got more on youtube, you’ll find clips from stand up comedy tv spots and exclusive interviews catch guests like seth godin, craig newmark, the founder of craigslist marquis of eco enterprises, charles best from donors choose dot org’s aria finger do something that worked. And levine from new york universities heimans center on philanthropy tony tweets to he finds the best content from the most knowledgeable, interesting people in and around non-profits to share on his stream. If you have valuable info, he wants to re tweet you during the show. You can join the conversation on twitter using hashtag non-profit radio twitter is an easy way to reach tony he’s at tony martignetti narasimhan t i g e n e t t i remember there’s a g before the end he hosts a podcast for the chronicle of philanthropy fund-raising fundamentals is a short monthly show devoted to getting over your fund-raising hartals just like non-profit radio, toni talks to leading thinkers, experts and cool people with great ideas. As one fan said, tony picks their brains and i don’t have to leave my office fund-raising fundamentals was recently dubbed the most helpful non-profit podcast you have ever heard. You can also join the conversation on facebook, where you can ask questions before or after the show. The guests are there, too. Get insider show alerts by email, tony tells you who’s on each week and always includes link so that you can contact guests directly. To sign up, visit the facebook page for tony martignetti dot com. Welcome back to big non-profit ideas for the other. Ninety five percent, joined in the studio with my co host for today, our creative producer, claire meyerhoff, and also our monthly prospect, research contributor maria simple ladies again, so glad you’re with me, like, so right to be here. All right, we’re going toe. We’re gonna do this workweek, hustle, walking challenge. We got, uh, we got adam weinger you’re on the line right at him. Hey, tony, thanks for having me. My pleasure. Thank you, adam. Thanks for being with me. I won’t remind everybody. Adam has been a guest. Ana non-profit radio from the non-profit technology conference. He was one of the speakers there in twenty fourteen, and i talked about improving your matching gift program. And that was the april twenty fifth, twenty fourteen show. He’s, the ceo of double the donation he’s at two ex donations on twitter and double the donation dot com and ah, when hey was he was inspired by what he saw last week because we had a show talking about walking and work in the same time. And he was inspired by that, i guess to challenge me to a work week hustle. I do not know how many steps he walked this week. He does not know how many i walked, but we’re going to find out. We’ll see who takes the lead. So, uh, thanks for reaching out. Adam. That was cool. Definitely. How has your walking been going? The sleek i’m doing fine don’t don’t don’t tease me now i’m doing okay. I’m doing fine. And of course, our prize the winner gets ah! Slice of new york city pizza. Right? You’re gonna come up to new york and absolutely and buy me a slice of pizza. I take mine with mushrooms and anchovies. Please. You can even have two slices if you went. Okay, we’ll see if i win. Okay, bobby d l are you with us? There i am. Tony, thank you so much for joining us from arizona. Bobby dee has also been a non-profit radio guest on february twenty seventh, twenty fifteen he and i talked about improving auctions and cash calls for your fund-raising events. Bobby dee is the twenty fifteen world automobile auctioneer champion. That means he’s number one champion in automobile auctioning and he’s the twenty fourteen us big calling champion on twitter. He’s at called a call to auction at call to auction and you’ll find his sight called to auction dot com. Thanks very much for being with us. Bobby deol two hundred fifty and show. Well, what? What a player. Tony, i’m actually here at the arizona chapter of ft at their conference. I’m in a hotel room right now with an honor to be at this conference and then to be a part of this celebration. So congratulations. Thank you very much. And, adam, i’m so glad you’re part of the two fiftieth show to thank you. All right, we have a traveling mate. My pleasure. All right. We’re going toe going to increase the drama a little bit. Uh, we’ll play. We got some appropriate music, and then now bobby d i am goingto okay. We lower that a tad labbate attack. Okay, bobby d i’m going to announce mine my number first. So, bobby, you want to go ahead, homey? Well, what i want to do is i want to find out how many steps you have, and what i’m gonna do is i’m gonna call off the number of steps, and if you have that number of steps, just go ahead and say yes. And then i’ll go up and we’re gonna find out what your limited. So we’ll just go ahead and get started now. Tony, did you walk over five thousand steps, please? Bobby, you’re insulting me. Five thousand five thousand. Did you walk over ten thousand steps this week? Way over ten. All right, ten. How about fifteen? Fifteen metoo walk over fifteen. Fifteen. Way over way. Over, please. You’re in some twenty. How about thirty thousand? You walk over thirty thousand. I did do over thirty. Come on, bobby, about thirty five. How about forty thousand there’s? My number. There’s a i got forty thousand one hundred eighty six bonem. All right. Thank you. Forty thousand hand pub. Forty thousand one eighty six. Okay, it’s adam’s turn. Go ahead, bob. Now, adam, work. We’re gonna go a little bit quicker. Okay? So we’re gonna have computed five thousand. Indeed, i did. About ten thousand. Yes, i did. Fifteen twenty, twenty five thousand year. Thirty thousand sets. I went over thirty thousand he’s over thirty. How about thirty five thousand? What is that? A yes. About forty thousand? Yeah. How about fifty thousand? No. Okay, we’re four thousand. Did you get forty one thousand steps? I got forty three o ee o. I got screwed. I got screaming. Just want, like, one more time. What would you say, bobby? D if you’d taken the stairs one more, maybe you could’ve beat him. No, there’s too many escalators in the city. I want to ask you to shut down on dh. Plus what? When i’m walking upstairs, i do two at a time. I do doubles that way. Sam, turn off that crummy news. You was wrong. You would rob tony. Not the music you have robbed when i did. I’m serious, but when i go upstairs, i take two at a time. So you got a double my upstairs all the time. I have. Oh, man, i do my steps twice. Time going all right. No, it was closed, tony. It was a valiant effort. Adam weinger, uh, okay. All right. I owe you. I got screwed. All right, now, all right. I’m not such a bad loser. All right, adam. Pizza place. Alright, my favorite. I’ll take you to your favorite pizza place in new york city. Okay? We got to wrap it up. Thank you so much, guys. Thanks for having me. Thankyou, bobby d thank you. Adam. Congrats, toady. I got to say, well, i lost, but thank god for the two. Fifty. I got you. Thanks. So i’m gonna thank you. Thanks so much. Uh, cure a coffee and plan giving marketing for being our giveaway sponsors today. Claire meyer huff. Thank you so much for being in the studio. It was wonderful. To be here and i can’t wait to be here for the three hundred show your maria semple. Thank you so much. Oh, great to be here as well. Thank you and susan chavez. Thank you out there. You’re in san francisco. Thank you very much for your help. Our social media manager with today’s show. Thanks so much. Been great fun. Thanks everybody for getting us this far. Two hundred fifty shows. I just love doing this show. I just love it. Next week two ntcdinosaur views from some smart speakers at ntc non top non-profit technology conference i was at this past june. If you missed any part of today’s show, how could you? How could you miss that? Twenty fiftieth. Find it on tony martignetti dot com pursuant full service fund-raising they’re perfect for non-profits. Just like yours. Data driven, technology driven, pursuing dot com. Welcome. Our creative producer is claire meyerhoff. Sam liebowitz is a line producer. Shows social media is by susan chavez susan shop dot com. And this music is by scotty stein of brooklyn. Yeah, awesome scotty stuff in the house with me next week for non-profit radio big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent go out and greet you. Show that. Thank you, labbate. What’s not to love about non-profit radio tony gets the best guests check this out from seth godin this’s the first revolution since tv nineteen fifty and henry ford nineteen twenty it’s the revolution of our lifetime here’s a smart, simple idea from craigslist founder craig newmark yeah insights, orn presentation or anything? People don’t really need the fancy stuff they need something which is simple and fast. When’s the best time to post on facebook facebook’s andrew noise nose at traffic is at an all time hyre on nine a, m or p m so that’s, when you should be posting your most meaningful post here’s aria finger ceo of do something dot or ge young people are not going to be involved in social change if it’s boring and they don’t see the impact of what they’re doing. So you got to make it fun and applicable to these young people look so otherwise a fifteen and sixteen year old they have better things to do if they have xbox, they have tv, they have their cell phones. Me dar is the founder of idealist took two or three years for foundation staff, sort of dane toe adam. Email address their card. It was like it was phone. This email thing is fired-up that’s why should i give it away? 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Oh, hi, hello and welcome to tony martignetti non-profit radio. Big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent. I’m your aptly named host and this is our two hundredth show lorts oppcoll oh, i’m glad you’re with me. I’d be forced to suffer the effects of intra hip attic duct oh, pina, if i learned that you had missed today’s two hundred show, we’re gonna have more live music with scott stein. You just heard that the intro that we’re just getting started with live music. He’s, the composer of our theme song creative producer claire meyerhoff is here with me for the hour in the studio. Hello, claire. Hey, tony, all the regulars are going to be with us. Maria simple jean takagi and amy sample ward. We’re gonna do some time travel. We got prizes for your donorsearch tory’s. Lots of great stories. Lots of cool prizes on tony’s take two, you’ll see many thanks to lynette singleton she’s down in atlanta, georgia she is live tweeting today’s show on twitter as me check the hashtag non-profit radio you can join the conversation. I’m at tony martignetti on twitter. Hello lynette, thank you very much for live tweeting today, thank you so much. We are sponsored by generosity. Siri’s they host multi charity five runs and walks. Generosity siri’s dot com hyre meyerhoff. Welcome to the show. Thanks so much, tony. Thank you for having welcome back is what i should say. Thanks, claire. Of course. Very well known she’s, our creative producer. You hear about that? Every single show from the beginning, she’s been with me. She’s, the principal of the plant e-giving agency, helping non-profits with their plan giving marketing and communication strategies. Claire, you have a background in professional radio. You’ve been on the air with serious examined w t o p in washington d c and i’m really glad you’re with me. Thanks so much. Thanks so much. This is radio heaven, right here. Non-profit radio gal like me. Scott stein is here. He’s, a pianist, songwriter, vocalist, composer, arranger, conductor and instructor. He’s got awards. He performs live. The dude knows music. He hails from akron, ohio, and is based in new york city. He’s, the composer of our theme song cheap red wine he’s at scott stein music dot com. Scotty. Very welcome. Very, very glad that you’re with us. Thank you? Well, thanks for having me, it’s. My pleasure to be here. My pleasure. Thank you. Um, so, claire, we’ve got got quite a bit planned today, and you made a kind of a special trip. Actually, i did. I came from raleigh, north carolina, by way of d c and now i’m here in beautiful new york city on a gorgeous day. It is and thank you very much. And thanks for making that trip from raleigh. I have a home in in pinehurst, north carolina. There very often. I love north carolina. Carolina is a great state. We we all love it here in the tar heel state. Scotty, you’re from akron, ohio. Is that right? Right? Yes. Lebron james. And that lebron james territory? Yes, it is. Yeah. He’s from akron. We’re we’re real happy right now, but i i just i just dug out my my lebron number twenty three jersey for the first time since about four years ago. So, yeah, we’re excited. Okay, claire, i’m actually kind of with you, who’s that but i even i know that that is he’s. A big basketball stars. This? Yes, he’s got the same numbers. Michael jordan. I did not know that. Yeah, well, he switched into six when he played toa went to miami, but we’ll see if he switches it back. Now, these back in cleveland let’s. Give away our first prize. All right, we got tons of prizes today. I asked listeners to submit donorsearch tory’s or how come you love non-profit radio and most of them are donorsearch or ease and that’s very, very fine. But this first one was our with the very first entrant marianne howard commented on youtube, the youtube channel israel. Tony martignetti. I have to read what she said it’s not too long, but it’s very genuine. I heart non-profit radio because you always seem to have relevant guests who are able to provide tips that i can use working for a very small non-profit there’s four of us on staff it’s great to be able to have access to their and your thoughts and ideas. Marianne, thank you very, very much. I think that is worth a bag of cura coffee and here’s. Ah, claire meyerhoff to tell us about your coffin. Marianne, you have won a bag of cura coffee. Cura coffee directly connects coffee lovers. With farmers and families who harvest the finest organic coffee beans with every cup of cura, you join our effort to expand sustainable dental care to remote communities around the world. They’re direct trade coffee company with direct impact delivered directly to you, creating organics miles beyond the cup your coffee dot com or on twitter at your coffee we love cura coffee. Thank you very much. Cure for the for being of one of our prize sponsors. Um, clear your your work is the plant e-giving agency what’s what’s going on there? Well, i’ve been helping a lot of different clients with their plan giving because as you know, people non-profits air leaving money on the table if they are not actively seeking those future dollars by way of requests and beneficiary designation. So i help a lot of clients with their marketing. I also and partnered with a company out of philadelphia called plan giving marketing pgm, and they’re a great group there in plymouth meeting, and we have a lot of clients ranging from large hospitals and universities, colleges, all kinds of charities. I’m working with the national hemophilia foundation and smith college all kinds of very cold groups? Yeah, i know a little bit about planned e-giving. Yes, well, you’re my mentor. You’re my plane getting mentor. We’ve known each other for a long time. Yes, because i didn’t know much about playing giving out. Call up tony and go. Why would someone do ah, what a charitable remainder. Yeah. Details. That’s. All right. That’s. Fascinating. Let’s, let’s do a little bit of live listener love because we have live listeners. New bern, north carolina, new york, new york, new york, new york is multiple love that and bridgewater, new jersey live listener love to you, let’s go abroad for live listener love ukraine. Ah, very much in our thoughts today ukraine. What? You know, you know, i don’t do politics, but you’re in our thoughts. We hope that you are safe as you’re listening to tony martignetti non-profit radio and beyond. We don’t want you to just be safe during the during the hour of this show. Seoul, seoul, south korea seoul is always checking in. Very grateful for listeners in seoul. Multiple anya haserot to korea in japan. Osaka, kyoto, kobe! Asahi! Shizuka i hope i’m saying that right live. Listen, you left everyone. In japan. Konnichiwa, it’s, it’s! It’s. Interesting. Claire. Actually, we get a lot of listeners from asia it’s really very interesting. Usually it is. It is interesting, i think, because you wonder, are there? Are they americans living in asia or they don’t know exactly what they are working for? They practicing their english by listening to us? I don’t know. Do they need help with playing giving marketing cloudgood asia free trip? Sure, i won’t give away another prize going to another prize. This one is for dennis fishman. He shared his story on twitter. A donor gave him a capital pick campaign gift and then nothing for a while didn’t hear from them, then gave them a used copier. Dennis went and picked it up himself, and then this woman left the organization seventy five thousand dollars in her will think you’ve planned gifts, success story the show is the show was produced and, you know, i always say that the best stories and non-profits air our plan getting stories because they’re these surprise bequests and those make a good story. It’s not a story of a rich guy, writes a check for two hundred thousand dollars, but it is a story of a little old lady leaves a charity one hundred thousand box and she went there once. Joe sorry, dennis is dennis fishman is going to get a copy of joe garics book how to raise more money for any non-profit. Thank you very much, joe garret for being one of our many sponsors. Thank you, joe. Thank you, jurors. And congratulations, dennis, and thank you. Yeah. That’s right. Congratulations. Matter-ness flashman fishman fishman baizman fishman now twenty lassen i got another prize. We got tons of prizes. I’m just giving them out at tony martignetti dot com. Stacy shares the story of a woman who wanted to give back and donated a kidney to a stranger. That’s. Amazing is not it a kidney? I think deserves coffee and let’s give away another bag of cura coffee. I don’t think way. Just say thank you very much. Teo. Cure coffee. Thank you for your coffee, karen. Dot com back our coffee on twitter. Excellent, excellent. Thank you very much for sharing. Ah, very touching story. See? So, you know, small and midsize non-profits khun get gifts of any type a used copier and then seven hundred. Seventy five thousand dollars request and may maybe if they had stewarded that person more, maybe they would have gotten bigger. Well, we don’t know. Well, clear. You’ve been a little harsh. I don’t know about that. I don’t know. Oh, that’s. Ah! Congratulations on your wonderful bequest. Yes, thank you. Um and also for the kidney story. Thank you very much. Thank you for the kidney let’s. See where we wake? Got maria a cz maria’s with us maria simple. She is the prospect finder, our prospect research contributor she’s our doi n of dirt cheap and free she’s the prospect finder dot com and she’s at maria simple on twitter maria hey there, how’s everybody doing today i think we’re doing terrific, lee. Well, has everybody got you? Kenichi? Answer for yourself. How are you? He’s? Got you doing, toni, i expect to be invited in for the three hundred show party we’re going to that caters well that’ll be in a year exactly where we know there’ll be two more years. I’ll be two more years, right? That’ll be the that’ll be our sixty year oh my god! I don’t know if we’ll live that long, but well, then we better go with the two. Fifty if we do it. If we do it, your certainly going to be invited. But the two hundred third show she can come in for that duvette big party. Maria, you’re are dyin of they’re cheap and free. You have some ce unconference ideas coming up for people. All i do. I do, tony, i thought, you know well, you know it’s a good opportunity sometimes when it’s sometimes a little slower for non-profits in the summer. Teo, maybe look around the internet for some conference ideas or online learning opportunity ideas. So i was just looking around for some things related to teo prospect research and fund-raising and general capacity building for non-profits and i came up with a few ideas of things people might wantto think about checking out an attending. Okay, so what do you got for us? So the first step is actually a conference starting on monday and i’ll be there. So there you go. I think everybody should try and help onboard this one. It’s, the american marketing association’s non-profit conference and i attended last year for the first time and it was really fantastic. It’s it’s being held in arlington, virginia. Okay, but that’s only for that’s. Really going to only be for our live listeners. So just a lifeless right. Ok, let’s, uh, just just give the girl for that one. And let’s, let’s move to one that may am dot ork and made that og the american marketing association that’s, right? You and your stinking variety of not of conferences, but this one is really specifically focused on the non-profits sector. Okay, what else? Go and apra thie association of professional researchers for advancement. They’ve got their upcoming international conference this summer, it’s, starting on july thirtieth through august second in las vegas. So this is really the one time of year preeminent event if you’re planning to attend anything related to prospect research, uh, this is going to be the biggest gathering of prospect research geeks, if you will. And so there’s always plenty of grated speakers and it’s in las vegas. That website is apra home dot or a pr a home dot borg. Okay, excellent. I’ve spoken that. Ah, a couple of regional apra conferences, but never the never the national or the global, whichever, whichever that when this. That was one of you. Go ahead. It was just gonna say that they do have folks that do come in from a couple of other countries, especially from canada. They have a pretty good representation from there as well. Okay, okay. Mining was not quite as exotic as las vegas. I think it was it was actually somewhere in new jersey. What else you got for us? Um also coming up in the fall is the alliance for non-profit management. Uh, they’re conference has a theme this year. Capacity building for collective action and they’re holding it on september seventeenth through the nineteen was austin, texas. Okay, what’s the alliance all about. So the alliance really deals with a lot of issues around leadership and governance and ah, latto things generally related to capacity building. So they do touch upon anything having to do with really expanding unorganised ation in terms of, you know, thinking about growth and staffing and broadening your board and fund-raising so that might be one to consider attending in this hall unless i was there something you want to check out. Their website is alliance dot or ge. Okay, let me let me bring in claire, because claire, you there was a conference you wanted, teo. You want to share info and i will be going to anaheim, california, in october. I think it’s october fourteenth, fifteenth and sixteenth. Something like that. And that is the partnership for philanthropic planning. So that’s the big plan give unconference they have every year. So that’s in october in anaheim, california. Partnership for philanthropic planning? Yes, that used to be called something else and it’s for everyone in the plan giving industry. And then i’m going. I’m going to be speaking at a conference in august august fourteenth in durham, north carolina. It’s the north carolina philanthropy conference. So that’s, the association of fund-raising professionals and i will be doing my coffee time plan giving presentation, which is all about if you only had time for a cup of coffee once a week for an hour, what would you do? Plan get wise, that’s what i tell you. Okay, cool. That that sounds great. Is that the triad chapter? No that’s. This is for the whole state. And it’s the it’s. The statewide f p conference in durham in august. So it’s the whole state. Okay, maria. I want to thank you very much for calling and no problem and for being part of the two hundred show and just also, you know, generally very, very grateful for all your contributions to the show for i don’t know how many years, but you’ve been its, you know, like, probably a couple of years or so it’s been a long time we’ve been working with has been yeah, and i’m really grateful for all regulations, tony and everybody there, thank you very much. Thanks, maria bite down. I getto got into the prize. We’re gonna give away prize teo! Jeff! Jody! Because he’s such a big supporter of the show he’s just always retweeting and favorite ing my tweets about the show on i’m just very, very grateful. He’s a big, big fan and i want to give jeff jody a subscription to the non-profit times claire, tell us about the non-profits altum non-profit times is awesome. It’s, the leading business publication for non-profit management the non-profit times dot com visit him on the web. I wish you could see her as you do. It’s it’s wonderful ways we’re doing good next time. Three hundred show, i think. We should do a google plus hang out on air because i want i want people to see the video of this it’s ah, we don’t have a video, but i wish we did. Thank you, claire. Thank you, johnny. Um i’m gonna go. I’m gonna work in tony’s take two right now and it really is just my gratitude too. Thank you thanking you for all your support listening. You know, we wouldn’t have had two hundred shows wouldn’t be at this huge milestone if it wasn’t for all the listeners and supporters. So i just really want to say thank you very much for those of you who get my weekly e mail, the email alerts telling you who the guests are each week i want to thank you very much for welcoming me, letting me into your inbox week after week. Thank you very much for that. Thank you, everyone. Who’s ah listeners supporter fan of the show for getting us to two hundred shows it’s really it’s really amazing and i have to give a shout to generosity siri’s they host multi charity peer-to-peer runs and walks. I am seed. They’re new york city event you’ve heard me talk about them. There were that new york city event. There were, like ten, ten or twelve charities they raised over one hundred thirty thousand dollars collectively. That’s what generosity siri’s does. It puts together a bunch of small and midsize non-profits that can’t generate enough activity for their own run walk. But together, collectively, i love that they can, and they could be very successful at it. They’ve got events coming up in new jersey, miami, atlanta, another one in new york city, philadelphia and toronto. If you think a run walk might make sense for you, talk to dave lynn he’s, the ceo. You can get him at seven one eight five o six, nine, triple seven, or they’re on the web, of course, generosity. Siri’s dot com, very grateful for their sponsorship. Um, we have. What’s happening? I don’t know. Clear. Is it clear? What’s it. What is that? What what’s going on? I feel funny. Ladies and gentlemen, we’ve entered a time tunnel. We’re on a journey back in time. A time before tony martin. Any non-profit radio existed. We’ve traveled to cary, north carolina. Where two fund-raising colleagues tony martignetti and clear meyerhoff are having dinner. Clear. The food is really good here, so yeah. It’s awesome. Cool. I invited you out because actually, i have this idea. I want to do a radio show. I want to interview smart people in the nonprofit world and help small and midsize non-profits i want to do it every week. I know you’ve worked in radio. I think you can help me. Doesn’t sound like a cool idea. Are you nuts? Are you crazy? Do you have any idea how much work it is to produce and host a radio show every single week? Why are you being such a bummer? I’m such a downer. I’m just being honest, claire, i want to do this. It means a lot to me. And i know that you can help me raise it. And i will i will hire you. I will pay you. Ok, ok, you can pay me, i’ll help you get started. I want a hundred bucks. You buy dinner tonight and i get a credit at the end of every single show. Who knows? It could be really big one day. Two hundred shows later. Here we are non-profit radio players about that. Non-profit radio players um, yes, it’s been it’s been two hundred shows, it’s unbelievable, and claire has been with me since the beginning, and i’m very grateful, so if i don’t get a chance to say it later, claire, thank you so much for all your help with non-profit radio it’s been a pleasure, i’ve really enjoyed watching the show grow. I was really, like, just surprised and so excited that you could make the show becomes such a wonderful, wonderful show, you’ve helped so many non-profits and you’ve done a great job. You really made the investment i’ve had people come to me and go, well, could you help me do what you did for tony and like, well, really people have really? Oh, yeah, and i say, well, really well, do you want to make, like, this huge investment of of your time and your talent and your money and all this? If you if you want to do all that, then then you could pay me ten thousand dollars and i’ll help you. Oh, man, i got a deal. You’re the best, but no, it was trying to, like, put its laid them it’s a labor of love absolutely love and so thank you very much. Thank you, let’s. Give away a prize. We got more prizes it’s unbelievable. My book, my voice treyz crackling fourteen clay meyers bowman shared his story of an ask in the governor of kansas is mansion, the honorary campaign chair for the burger sands in art gallery in central kansas. Mark parkinson had moved into the governor’s residents just the day before the meeting. He had just gotten sworn in. He hosted this breakfast meeting and they got double the gift that they asked for. They ask for fifty thousand they got hundred thousand awesome. The whole story is that tony martignetti dot com and for that terrific story, clay, i’m going to send you a copy of gale perry’s book fired-up fund-raising turned board passion into action. Gail perry is one of my mentors. I’ve learned so much about fund-raising from gail, for instance, gail’s classic thing is, claire, if you want money, ask for advice. If you want advice, ask for money, that’s what she said so there’s a lot of great lessons in her book, and gail perry has been a guest on this show and also my other podcast what i do for the chronicle of philanthropy fund-raising fundamental. She was a guest there too. Alright, so, clay, you’re going to get a copy of that book? Fired-up fund-raising i love her energy to she’s. Got gail perry very good. And she’s an unbelievable speaker chic. She flies all over the world and speaks to organizations. She mentioned new zealand a few weeks ago. And she’s just she’s, a maven in a guru and oh, fabulous. She should have her own tv show like oprah. Also from north carolina. Right? Also, she should look right down the block for may. Is that right? Okay. Yeah. You know, i walk to her house. I wantto let’s talk to scott a labbate i wantto now’s the time. I want to hear a little about this. The cheap red wine is our theme song mutual friend of ah of scots and mine put us together. Um, cheap red wine scott what’s it about, um well, it’s, about five years old. So that’s that’s not what you’re asking that’s. All right, bad joke. Cheap red wine was a song i wrote. I had moved to new york. This i moved about. Seven years ago, and i’ve lived here on the upper west side where we are where we’re recording. Yes, what? And so yeah, i i moved to this neighborhood and as part of the young jewish singles crowd, which i am no longer your conversation converted to catholicism. No, i converted out of the single dahna on. Got married about a year ago. Thank you. Thank you, lucky lady. I’m a lucky guy. Yeah, so i but i but i moved here to the neighborhood, and i found myself going to a number of, like, dinner party’s friday night, shabbat dinners. And inevitably, it felt like everybody was meeting was either in law or finance. Now, those are two fine feels my sister is a lawyer. Um, but i remember actually, well, several times i had to explain what it was they do because i’m a full time musician. I work free lands and explaining that it was something i kind of had to do a lot. And i remember one time i i sat down at a meal and somebody sat next to me and she said so deal working law finance on. And i said neither she thought. I was a doctor. I should have kept going when i should have kept her going like that. Yeah, so it was just kind of a response to that. I think that, you know, i think this song on it service just seems to be about relationship that’s not working. But i think that in pop music and especially in rock music, which i think there are a lot of, um, sort of the warm look for their their their certain like modes right there, certain models for the way you write a song and writing songs broken about a broken heart or really shit that’s not working is almost like a cliche, but it’s a matter of what you do with it. And so that was this’s the idea of being let’s hear it, we’re going to hear, we’re going to have a full, we’re going here, the full, cheap red wine, and then we’ve got it. We’ve got somebody on the line. I hope that the caller can hold while we listen to the theme of non-profit radio cheap red wine scott stein. Well, baby, you just keep on talking. Sooner or later, i’ll figure out what you mean. You see, in romantic advice from a billet, i’m looking the answer’s upon a tv stream. Wait can agree on nothing way. Get tiller ups from my down. We’re disappointed in each other not to have a baby, and this love that we found. You know, you used to find me charming, but i can’t figure out how and you said you, those handsome. But it doesn’t matter now. So get fallen from a bunch of his long time will allow, because i’m got your empty promises. A bottle of cheap red wine. Newsome goes, is living diamonds, and they won’t talk to the cut of clothing that way. Well, i’m two photo for the good stuff, and you’re too easily distracted to care. Way ain’t got too many options. And so i’m gonna do the best that i can. But, baby, you’ll have some competition. When day, when i’m a wealthy man, you know, you used to find me charming, but i can’t figure out how and you said, you thought i was handsome, but it doesn’t matter now, so keep falling from a bunch of guys long time will allow. So i’ve gotta remmy promises and my lucky bread, wine. And now whoa, yeah, well, maybe literally. Glasses take a dream to today’s. The other family kids are. They don’t like the things you say, and i get to use the heavens. No, i won’t flash no entry signs, because we’re perfect for each other asses. Long as we have nobody else duitz. Nobody is waiting in line with just side jim. Why? What? Duitz hey, you know, you used to find me charming, but i can figure out how. And you said, you thought i was handsome. Never mind. It don’t matter now. You keep falling for my punches is long time will allow, got her empty promises about chief now. Chief. Oh! Neo-sage wait. Bilich e i love that. I just love that song. Did you? Yes, i did. I just love that song. It’s so first. Oh, man. Scott, thank you very much. Very much. Thank you for having me. People confined your music that i know you’re not leaving right this second. I just wanna this’s the right time. Scott stein, music dot com yeah, the song is cheap. Red wine. The album is jukebox. Where can people find working? People buy cheap red wine and juke box. They could get it on itunes. They can get it on cd, baby. All of those air also linked to my main websites. If you just want to go there, everything is there. I have some new music that i just put out in the last couple of months. And those air digital on lee releases you, khun. Stream them for free. You can download him, name your own price on there’s. Going to be some new stuff coming out of another song coming out in a couple weeks. So it’s always got style on scott stein music dot com. Yes, sir. And before you go, we’ll talk about your club date. You got coming? Up. Okay. Let’s. Goto, we got a caller on line. John federico, how are you? Sony. I know all about cheap red one. Though i haven’t dated in over twenty years. John federico is the remote producer of tony martignetti non-profit radio. John, thanks very much for calling in. Tony. I just i couldn’t let this go by. Uh, what can i say? The teacher is i should say the student is now the master over two hundred shows. Congratulations are definitely in order. Thank you very, very much. You’ve got me started xero standing over for tony. Everybody stat up, head up. I can and can’t yeah, everybody’s standing. We just can’t see it. We’re standing gets john because you’ve got me started in podcasting. That’s. Why you say the you know, that’s what you say what you’re saying years ago, i knew i wanted to put this thing on itunes and you helped me do that. And then you acquainted me with all the gear i needed to do remote. And then you became the remote producer. You came and shot video when i would do remote conferences on dh. Here we are, it’s. Really? You know, i owe a lot to you. Thank you. Thank you very, very much. Oh, so happy to do it as they said so. Happy to see how far how much further you taken the show’s incentive, it’s. Wonderful. You could find john federico he’s at gadget boy. Claire likes to call him gadget boy, you were you, the three of you three haserot unconference. We’re in san antonio at the partnership for philanthropic planning conference in san antonio and twenty something. I remember that levin to twenty eleven or twelve. Twenty eleven eleven because it was my fifty first birthday and we went out for you. Took me up, took out and john was with us. All right, john, i know you don’t. You don’t have a lot of time. But one thank you very, very much for calling, man. Thank you. And thanks for everything. You got me this far. Thank you so much. Congratulations. Can we see what you do with the next two hundred? Cool. Thank you, john again. Alright. John federico on twitter he’s at gadget boy, we have ah, jean takagi on the line. Don’t wait. Jean takaaki, how are you, man? I’m doing excellent, tony. Congratulations that i loved scott song. I’m looking for that on itunes right away. Excellent. Yes. He’s it’s. Perfect. Just yeah. It’s great does hear it live fabulous. Jean is our legal contributor with me once a month. Yet it’s the very popular nonplussed non-profit law blogged dot com and his principle of neo the non-profit and exempt organizations law group and on twitter he’s at g tak e t a on dh i know gene, we don’t have a lot of time, but we’re going to want to talk a little bit about collaborations. Yeah, i thought, you know, in the spirit of the two hundred show and your collaborations with many of us on giving us the opportunity to to work with you, giving us a platform to spread our message to non-profit sectors i thought maybe we should start a preview what we might talk about next time and that’s just really about non-profits getting together and collaborating. And i think most people think that that is a good thing don’t you think i do on i think institutional funders think of it is a good thing. I think they like to see collaborations between non-profit duitz but i think that the first step would be like, how would we determine who might be the right organization to collaborate with? Yeah, i mean that’s a really good point, and so now i’m gonna put on my lawyer hat and say, well, it’s, a good thing, but, yeah, you absolutely have to be very careful about who you’re collaborating with and how well do you know them? And do you know, if you’re gonna work well together, then you have all kind of those legal things involved, like, well, you’re you’re going to do that, and i’m going to do this, but what if something else happens or what if you don’t do what you promised to do, do do we want to make this an enforceable contractor? Are we just sort of going tto play it really loose and see what happened? Yeah, because everybody’s got mutual expectations. I mean, we’re doing this collaboration for a reason, and so if one side doesn’t carry through the other side, may or may not want to have something enforceable legally and legally binding and enforceable against them. But if they have that, then they know that the other party they’re collaborating with has the same thing potentially against them. Yeah, i mean, so there’s risk running both ways, and i think we come from, you know, the non-profit culture is one of mutual trust and things like that, but, you know, again, putting on the lawyer had its trust but verify and protect on boards of directors have have have the duty to make sure that their organizations are protected so often times, instead of like this really generic nonbinding m o ur memorandum of understanding liketo see a simple contract put into place where you make certain promises to each other and you let the other party note, you’re not going to let them down. And if you if you do, you’re gonna be held responsible and you take that responsibility and does the agreement say what? What the penalty is for or not carrying you your side of the responsibilities? It usually doesn’t say specific penalties, although there could be specific penalties if you feel like, well, you’re really going to lose out if something something awful happens, but usually it’s just damages for however you’re hurt because the other party just didn’t live up to their obligations. Maybe you put a down payment on something in the other party didn’t put up their share, and you lost your. And then then, of course, you would expect to be reimbursed for the harm that was done to you. But sometimes it’s more specific than that. Okay, we’re going to cover that in a lot more detail, as we always do, jean, when? When you’re on, when you want again, i know it’s coming up in a couple weeks, see if i was prepared to know the exact day. I’m sorry i don’t, but do you by any chance? No, i don’t have that. Okay, that’s. All right, right now, that’s. All right. Very cruel of me to put you on the spot like that. But of course, she’ll be back. He’s always back-up month after month. So it doesn’t really matter which day because you’re listening. Anyone get date? August eighth. Okay, thank you very much for that gene. We’ll talk more about partnerships and the obligations mutually had to enforce those obligations. Maybe some about your board. Responsibility boards, responsibilities and what form this thing takes it. Is it a partnership? Is some other legal entity? And what does all that mean? So you and i will talk about all that on august eighth. Sounds great, and congratulations again, tony, on so two hundred, really honored to be a part of part of the program. Thank you, jean that’s, thanks are sweet, and i am. I am very grateful for all your all your contributions. It’s been it’s been a couple of years, and i’m grateful for the time that you put in and i know are ninety, five hundred. Listeners are grateful as well, so thank you very much. Bye, gene let’s give away prize let’s do a prize teens act on twitter now the name of the organization was teens act, and they hit me on twitter there in utah, empowering at risk students to go to college. They had a guest speaker present at a college prep class of theirs, and after seeing the impact that the organization has on the students, the person donated five hundred dollars to speaker. Yeah, wow! So instead of getting paid, they pay right. So here shane didn’t say whether it’s so here she not only donated time, but then gave five hundred dollars, teo teens act on twitter, they are at teens act, and since they have such enormous impact, i’m gonna help them out with that by sending them a copy of the non-profit outcomes toolbox. That is a book by dr robert penna who was a guest on the show and it’s all about quantifying and demonstrating your impact and your and your outcome. So i will be sending that teo teens act. Congratulations act very cool administration in utah. Scotty, we have a little more time before you have to go. You have you have a gig? Coming up for those who in the new york area ay dio on and that’s going to be on wednesday, july thirtieth, two thousand fourteen and if there’s listening live that’s ah, a week from this wednesday, it’s actually, with a special group called the well groomed orchestra, which is of the well groomed orchestra they generally i mean, you know, and as much as i can control such things, okay, it’s basically his horns and winds and strings and it’s my original music. But i have a background in classical composition. It’s what i got my degree for in and so i wrote a number of like small orchestrations for my songs and to do it live nine instruments and four backing singers that’s going to be at the duplex at sixty one christopher street and saying they’re up, they have a piano piano bar downstairs and then a theater upstairs, and we’re in the upstairs theater that’s a nine thirty show and we have a special musical guest is well, my good friend amy regan is an amazing songwriter. I wrote some orchestrations for a handful of horton her songs i asked, we’ve been lookinto collaborate and i said, hey, why don’t you sit in with the well groomed orchestra and i’ll write you some charts and she said, that sounds good. So first time we’ve ever done this with somebody else’s music as part of the show. So we’re really super excited about this collaboration of the technical talk, right? You’re some charts, right? There were some range mints and some orchestrations. So can you. Can you write us and charts, man tony like some pie charts? Sametz start some sort of ninety graphs. Yeah. Yeah. You know that? Yeah. That’s. What? We were at war mathrani. Actually, you know that that’s that’s, our genre mathos? No, not at all. Well, groom, orchestra, you said nine nine musicians, nine musicians in total. They we have different combinations of instruments throughout the evening, so it might be four guys. It might be nine. It just depends on the on the peace. But i have nine different players, myself included, and then four backing singers and our special gas. Steny regan. Okay, very cool. Good luck. Good luck. Thank you very much. Thanks again for having me. It was my last. I saw you live at the talia falik. Value or thought, i always tell you maybe it’s time for symphony space. It’s the wine bar over there. Yeah. Symphony space. Talia maybe it’s tell you i’m what’s that person who doesn’t appreciate the arts a lot. I got a neophyte not a luddite, but a philistine, because i don’t know whether it’s, dahlia or tell you that’s. Okay, well, i’m joining you and i’m a musician, so you know, they’re goodcompany and you’re awesome musician. I love that song you made me want to write it, write a sitcom. So have you seen my my theme? Hey, if you do it, i will write your whole album like that was better than the friends theme er i think it was yes, let’s do a little more live listener love we get carmel, new york got two more in the usa, but i guess they’re mask sam can’t tell two people are hiding out fearful of the nsa which, frankly, is not such an unreasonable fear to have but so live listener loved to carmel and also teo other folks in the us so that we can identify san francisco. California we got you live listener love to you. As well. And santa pola, spain i do hope i said that. Right? Sent the polish in-kind ola santa pola live. Listen, love to everyone there. Um, amy sample ward is on the phone. What do you know about that? Hello, amy. Hey there. How are you? I’m doing well. I called in early so that i could listen everything. So i got tio hearing music. Got tio hear conversations, george. Feel like i was secretly in the corner of the room or something. Okay, cool. I’m glad you called in early, so we’ll bring you on a little early. Amy, of course. Ceo of n ten the non-profit technology network in ten dot or ge she’s at amy rs ward on twitter and she’s, our regular contributor in social media. Also with me every single month. Hello again. What’s happening time? Yeah. What’s what’s happening at the intend the non-profit technology network. What is happening? Well, in a very specific way, it seems that we have a lot of staff out at conferences today. The office is very quiet. We’ve got three portland staff, a community organizer summit here in portland and have a couple staff traveling for conferences. Back on the east coast so it feels like you know, everyone’s out summertime, but they’re not on a vacation. They’re just conferences, but larger than just today, we’re excited that we have our new brand new conference is just happening for the first time this year. It’ll be international disco in september, the leading change summit. So we’re other than today being out of the office, hard at work, getting that off the ground say a little more about the leading change summit. Is it too late? Well, is it too late for people to register if they’re interested? It is not. We actually got a good number of community members giving us feedback that our early bird registration deadline had been the fifteenth of july and they didn’t have enough time to process because it was the new fiscal year to get their whatever their organizations processes t get permission toe register, so we extended the early bird registration until july thirty first, so folks have more time to register at that lowest rate before rates increase and the conference is a bit of ah experiment, really? We felt like, you know, we have an annual conference, we’ve done for fifteen years, the non-profit technology conference and it’s, you know, quite large has sessions on every different topic, and people from all different kinds of organizations are coming together. So we wanted to do something that was totally different so that we weren’t, you know, competing with ourselves and our other conference, but also figuring out what it was that folks wanted that maybe wasn’t offered in that kind of format. So this conference is intentionally quite small limited number of folks, and there are no sessions there there’s not a like, you know, passing time in the hallway. Instead, you select the track or the topic, you know, thatyou wantto wantto work on while you’re there, and then it’s facilitated experience all the way through your working kind of with a smaller cohort of folks and really and that you can take whatever idea you have or whatever challenge, maybe you’re struggling with your organization or, you know, maybe of a new strategic plan, and you want to figure out what to really do with it, whatever that is or you want to create a new campaign, whatever, you could bring that idea or that challenge or obstacle to the conference and hopefully, over those days, the facilitated process will help you get feedback from other people. There will help you rethink maybe what your plans are now and the conference ends the last days an idea accelerator. So people who really put an idea together that that seems like it’s coming together, i can pitch that idea out. Others can come work with them for the day to just continue refining it, you know, poking hole seen how, how much better they can make it on dh then they can present that at the end of the day to a small panel of judges for some awards and it’s not meant that you have to come with, you know, and make a mobile app, or you have to have some technology project. I anticipate there will be a few folk that have kind of a technology translatable projects they want to pitch, but we’re also hoping that people come with, you know, with challenges like i think that the way we tackle this topic is fundamentally flawed, and we have to change the way we’re working on and try and tackle ideas and not just, uh technical project. Okay, that should be a really interesting, you know, convergence of of ideas and the project. People are working on the campaigns. They’re leading. And so far we’re you know, looking at who’s registered, there are organizations of all sizes. There are, you know, every kind of job title you can imagine from the very traditional to be like non-profit sector made up job title, you know, all the way across the board. So it looks like it will be, you know, a diverse group of people. And i think that’ll mean some really interesting conversations. You know, our love. We don’t all know each other already. I like the idea. Accelerator. It sounds like you have to wear a special suit to enter the idea. Accelerator have to strap in. Yes. So everyone will sign a release form will get their seatbelts on and then we’ll begin. Ok. And take their dramamine too. Yeah, take your dramamine before the idea. Accelerator. Ok, cool. How does that sound? So in-kind interesting. His leadership that leading change. Leading change summit clarence. I like anything fast. So you like the night? I like things that are that moved quickly. And faster and exciting. That that’s me. You should be at the accelerator. Comfort just is there a price just for the accelerator? Can we just show up for that? Um, you can show up just for the accelerator, but only if you’re going to support a team. You can’t. You will show up just for the accelerator and get to have your idea. Okay, workshop, you’re welcome to say no. You could just give me a flat. No, because it was so no way we’re open to that because we also recognize there may be people who don’t, you know, i have that time or, you know, approval from their organization to come during the week. And the last day of the conference is a saturday, so we wanted to open it up so folks that i could only come on that day could still, you know, holes in somebody’s idea and help them make it better. But we didn’t want to have those be the ideas that were central stage because they hadn’t participated all week. Okay? And amy, you’re gonna hang out with us for the rest of the hour, right? Until the end of the show, okay? That’s cool. So we got a little girl spare time. That’s great. Yeah, i question all this time on the show. I heard you drop the f bomb a little a little earlier because i love that song. Yeah. It’s, my show coming. Come on, that’s. Sort of like a, you know, a memorable moment o r or something like that. People like like, like goofs. And like, someone dropped something on the floor or theirs, you know, big problems. So, what are some memorable moments on the show? Like when funny things happened that were kind of bad, but not too bad. Well, actually, i am not the first person. Teo drop the f bomb on the show. Beth cantor since we’re on the subject, beth cancer when i interviewed her at pretty sure it was fund-raising day yes, it was fund-raising day in new york city, and it was either two thousand thirteen or two thousand twelve. And i interviewed her on one of the whatever their her topic was. Obviously something that the social change and it was data measurement and yeah, she said, fuck twice twice. So she’s just like death f bomb cantor was that day she was talking about sharks. It had to do with sharks. Sharks, kapin sharks. Yeah, yeah. I was a sight of sharks. Yes, it was very funny because she’s, not the kind of person you would typically think would do that. Ana, i have it on video. You could goto video videos on the youtube channel. Real tony martignetti it’s there. And i’ve used it on the show. So that was that was kind of memorable moment. Anything else? Anything weird happening? Scary. There was a ah near heart attack. Who had a heart attack? No, near near samuel. Remember our bet because it wasn’t too long ago. Ah, very winded. Guest came in he’s he’s. Not a small he’s. Not a small man. Yeah, on but he’s. Very nice. And i was a guest here in the studio. He’s running very late. He was coming from new jersey and that’s how far it was coming from fort lee geever grantcraft level traffic at the bridge. There was traffic, and he ii be sure he he had his cab. He know he had his car. The closest he could park was like a local garage or something. Cause you. Don’t want to drive around the neighborhood. Yeah, i’m going to find a parking spot and then you gotta put your card in the parking meter. You know, it takes too long. So he parked and pulled into a garage and he ran from the garage on the garage. Well, it’s not across the street. No it’s about forget a good four lock. He ran. Yeah. Yeah. And he came very sweaty, red cheeks, heavy breathing. He didn’t have any time, little doris to relax or you’re right. I don’t know. I i tried to try to give him some time to take a breath, take breaths and there’s the water. You know, we have a very sophisticated studio. We have a water cooler, so he got you got some water, and he was he come down and did not have a heart attack. But i was going through my mind was like, my old boy scout cpr training is thirty compressions and two breaths. I was thinking that if i have to do this yeah, yeah. Anything else? How about favored? Guess who was in your favorite guest? How about, like doug white? Oh, like doug white. Well, so yeah, doug, doug white, professor doug what’s been on the show a couple of times, just wrote a book about the the the robinson family lawsuit against princeton university. I know that which was a very big thing. Robinson family was heirs to the a m p fortune that gave sixty five million dollars years ago back in, like nineteen, sixty five or so roughly, and suffice to say, it didn’t go well. And, yeah, way the suit, it was. A big court case is finally settled for a bunch of money. There’s all that donor intent. What is the donor’s intent? And is already carrying that honoring it, right? Um, yeah, i mean, lots of lots of very, very guests. I love when all the regulars come on. Amy and maria and jean i like, you know, it’s. Just very comfortable. So, amy, let me say if i don’t get it, you know, if i forget later, i want you to know that i’m very, very grateful for the time that you put into the show. You know, social media is such a challenge for so many small and midsize shops. I know that they appreciate it. I hope you know that they appreciate it. And i definitely appreciate the time that you’ve been putting into the show. It’s been two years now because you were first on my show at at the one hundred. Yeah. Thank you. All so that’s. Very generous and kind. And i appreciate that you are making that explicit. Even if i tell myself that everyone loves everything i share on the show. I appreciate you saying that. And i love getting to be on the show. It’s. Always fun. Sometimes it feels like a challenge. Thinking of all the things that have happened since the last time i was on the show. What? Do i talk about you know, um, but it’s it’s really fun. And you make it really easy. Oh, i’m glad i’m glad that you enjoy doing it all with, uh, okay now. It’s. A pleasure on it’s. Been it’s been two years. You were with me in the studio. That was back when you lived in new york. Now, of course, you’re in portland, oregon, which i know is oregon. Yeah, it was really fun. Then i thought, oh, my gosh, i’m on the hundreds showed seems so exciting. And now fast forward two hundred show. Here we are, it’s early in oregon. She’s an organ she’s in portland, oregon. And it’s really out there. It’s only there. Three hours early. Yes, she deals with the time difference. Yeah, and i screwed it up in an email. I screwed it up last night. I i added three hours instead of deducting three hours, i think is something. I messed it up. Now that that that time difference math is hard. I mess it up all the time, and he doesn’t have a problem with it. So again, amy, thank you very, very much. You’re cool on dh. Thanks for hanging out for us with us for the rest of the hour. Let’s, give away a prize. In fact, um, let’s, give away teo, mary cal ing on twitter and, i hope, marry that i’m saying your name, right? She loved a donor that she had never met. The woman sent in three dollars, in cash, time after time after time, even sometimes with a little bible verse. I know right that’s, sweet, but small donors and small donors are the best. This was when mary worked for a riverfront recapture in hartford, connecticut, and i think she’s going to be very happy to get a copy of your book, amy. Social change. Anytime, everywhere. No, it is a good book, isn’t it? I mean isn’t delivered herself. Isn’t there some value to marry for this? I think so. I could be biased, but i believe it is the best book on the market. Social change, anytime, everywhere and you and i spent why don’t we spend one hour? I think we spent two hours over two months talking about the book because there’s a lot to say about social change and the use of the social networks and real engagement. That is time after time after time. That is your go to message on dh. I’ve learned it. Finally i’ve it took a while, but real engagement wait, it’s not what? We talked about it a few times because that the books written tio have separate chapters, whether you’re trying to tackle advocacy fund-raising or community building outside of ah campaign. Well, we’re going to get a copy of that book. Teo. Mary callie, we have another. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for donating a copy of your book. We got another prize to ah, rick j blount on twitter. He asked a donor why he made a gift and the donor said to show my dad that i can and his dad was no longer living, i think that’s very touching that is very touching and we’re going to give him we’re gonna give rick a copy of a a free fund-raising course from pamela grow pamela grow friendraising pamela grow, a master small shop fund-raising consultant. She has the grow report, the newsletter. She has online courses in a popular blogged she’s a pamela grow dot com pamela grow dotcom. Thank you for being one of our price sponsors. I’m getting a sign from sam. I think we gotta start tio to wrap up. So sad. Sad santo phone. We use giving us another minute. Let’s. See, um, amy drum is here. Amy drum is my wife and me. Pull out my cup. Come on. Jamie drumm lorts sabelo amy hello, amy. Oh, that’s kayman talent is something that does not translate very well to radio. For example, ward is on the line. How do you know i’m not saying hello to her? Oh, smart she’s smart. Not only a wonderful dancer, but she’s smart. And you want to say hello to amy give it. I’m giving an air high. Five to the other end. There you go, right back, hacha. Thank you, remy drum. You’re welcome. We are going to wrap up, so i want to thank everybody. Who’s been with me. Amy sample ward, maria semple, jean takagi, john federico, scott stein, scott have depart and my wife in a drum. Okay, that’s, got it on, uh, care mara, creative producer. Thank you very, very much right show. Congratulations on to country cool, thank you. I don’t know what way that is. Ok, our creative producer is claire meyerhoff. Sam liebowitz is our line producer, but he may not be next week. Shows social media is by julia campbell of jake campbell. Social marketing. She doesn’t have standing job with a lot of work for this show. The remote producer of tony martignetti non-profit radio is john federico. Do you know the music is by scott stein. 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Nonprofit Radio for September 21, 2012: Abbondanza Alliances & Claire’s Cliches

Big Nonprofit Ideas for the Other 95%

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Rosanna Imbriano
Rosanna Imbriano: Abbondanza Alliances

Rosanna Imbriano–a true Italian–and principal of RI Consulting, encourages you to secure strategic alliances that expand your marketing and save your marketing budget–because they cost you nothing.

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Claire Meyerhoff: Claire’s Cliches

Claire Meyerhoff returns. She’s principal of The Planned Giving Agency and creative producer of Nonprofit Radio. This week she’s got cliches aplenty for you to avoid and simpler words to replace them with. The show’s Jargon Jail is sure to suffer overcrowding.

 
 

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