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Durney hello and welcome to tony martignetti non-profit radio big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent. I’m your aptly named host. Oh, i hope you’re with me last week why i’d be put into pyre xia if i heard that you had missed intuitive brainstorming, karen garvey, author, speaker, intuitive and coach described the why and how of her intuitive brainstorming process and the pelota paul parte do our legal contributor jean takagi principle of the non-profit and exempt organizations law group continued our discussion from may tenth on dan pallotti’s video the way we think about charity is dead wrong. Jeanne and i also talked about the overhead myth letter that’s been circulating this week dan’s donor retention ideas. Dan blakemore is assistant director of development for individual giving at international house. We talked at fund-raising day last month here in the city about how to hold on to your donors from phone to facebook this was supposed to be beth cancer, but this turned out not to be a good week for beth to be engaged online, so my fund-raising day interview with her will be next week. Also tablet aps scott koegler is back he’s our tech contributor and the editor of non-profit technology news he’s got info on tablet apse for fund-raising between the guests on tony’s take two. You know tony stick to is always between the guests die without a will and reduce your state’s deficit. There’s a sad story out there about a man with a forty million dollars estate i want to do some live listen love before we go to the pre recorded interview with with dan blakemore, nouma zoho yokohama in tokyo, japan. Konnichiwa, yonkers, new york in new york, new york welcome and argentina buenos our days ah, but that’s either. Alejandra oh, francisco ola whichever of you it is we need the other one to come in. Get the other one on the line, whoever you are, not allehanda or francisco let’s transition now to the interview with dan blakemore talking about donorsearch retention welcome to tony martignetti non-profit radio coverage of fund-raising day two thousand thirteen or at the marriott marquis hotel in midtown new york city right in times square. With me now is dan blakemore. We’re going to talk about donor-centric. He is assistant director of development individual giving for international house dan blakemore. Welcome to the show. Oh, thank you so much for having me, tony. I’m really happy to be here. My pleasure. What? What is international houses work? International house were a residential community for international graduate students here in new york city. The residents can be studying pretty much anything at the graduate level. A ce moment. They’re doing it in new york city, and they’re eligible live at the house. We also house interns, trainees and visiting scholars from around the city. It sounds like a pretty dynamic place to visit you. You are you there? You’re sharing meals with them very often. Oh, yeah. There’s. A dime. I mean, there’s a dining room. I usually have lunch every day with other staff members and resident members. Gym facilities, study room’s, computer labs. I mean, we try to have as much in the house as possible for them. S so yes, they have to leave every now and again to go to class or something crazy like that. What? We really want them to stay in the community as much as possible learned as much from each other as possible. Our mission is really driven by leadership development in cross cultural understanding for the residents sounds like an incredible place to visit all over the world, studying all different kinds of things. Oh, yeah, here in new york, all right, your seminar, the topic is acquisition and retention of donors, but it’s a panel and your expertise is the retention definite. So i’m not going to hold you the acquisition part let’s talk about dahna retention. Well, what social media is a big part of that? But i don’t know, he’s, telemarketing a part of that where you want to start with attention before international house, at least in my experience, the attention has been much more focused around kind of really i i call it really the basics of good fund-raising good stewardship, everybody gets a phone call or an email before long before they get their acknowledgment from the president or the director of development. Um, we’re really trying to focus a lot around showing impact to people so that they are really clear on where their money is going, because when i started at our house, we were in the middle of a multi year, multimillion dollar challenge grant and i started i said, okay, well what are we doing to show impact to the people that have given already? Because it’s not gonna be much easier to get them to give us an extra hundred dollars an extra thousand dollars if they know we’re doing the right thing with their money and there’s really something good happening here? Then you have to be going out to other people saying, okay, you don’t know me, but international house is a great place give me some money. Yeah, widely recognized that it’s cost a lot more time and money to acquire a new donor than to keep one s i said, what are we really doing? And we weren’t doing as much. So i really one of the things i’ve been happy to do in my three and a half years there is really focuses on, ah, sustainable stewardship program so that we really engaging people, whether they are named room donors from twenty years ago to someone who set up a scholarship fund last year that they’re hearing from us that they know that the money they’ve given in the past is really having an impact and of course, encouraging them to continue giving because we we got to keep the doors open. We’re gonna keep the residents exposed to. There are all the programs were providing to encourage their leadership. You mentioned a telephone call who would make that telephone call toe donors to thank in the lion share of cases. It’s me? Since i mean, i’m assistant director development for individual giving. But there are some already i said your title once. Yes. You don’t need to drop names dropping yourself ridiculous already rolling. Not even five minutes into this thing. Already heard times. Thank you. Gonna keep things types up here, mike off. Okay. Ah, blood. There are some that i usually will say for the director, development or president. Especially kind of long, long gone generous loyalty donors, alumni that are much older and has been given to us for decades that i think should at some point here from the president, knew usually a much more of a nice treat for them to kind of hear, share their experience of what they remember from when they lived in the house, but also then know that the president is saying, really, we appreciate your support. We value it. Please keep giving and thank you. Okay, that’s important, i think the backdrop is closing in on us a little bit, so, you know, i don’t know if you have to move, but the backdrop is being encroached from from the other side. Oh, well, good, no, we’ll see what they’re trying to force me. They wanted eleven by ten, they were allocated a ten by ten, they wanted they wanted eleven by ten. Ah, all right, that doesn’t matter, way, continue. I mean, we’ve had earthquakes, we’ve had rappel going on. The lights have gone off today multiple times. I’m not surprised that are not our floodlights, okay? Do boardmember sze, what have you ever engaged boardmember for these, thank you calls occasionally, i mean, i’m working one of my many goals, probably in the next year or two calls it because our learned, a long serving president is retiring in the next few months, so i really want to try to get especially starting with the members of our development committee more involved with fund-raising just some have been very concerned or where about oh, well, i don’t have nearly as many friends who are rich, they could come to the gallo or can make a gift at five thousand dollars level every year, so i just can’t be helpful with fund-raising not true much more, so i’m working with them in-kind open their eyes to well, really, if you just make thank you calls and share your experience, why you share with the donors why you’re on the board asked them why they’re giving that’s easy way don’t you don’t need to write a check you don’t need to harass anybody else. That does not mean i don’t want you to get your wealthy friends to come to our special events or to come to speaker. Programs and meet residence. But it’s really about kind of opening up that fund-raising experience letting them see that there’s a lot more to the process, then just begging your friends to give you some money. Ok? All right, very much a personal touch. What you’re trying to bring hopeful. Okay, let’s, let’s. Go online, tio. Some social media. What? What do you what do you like to do on on facebook? Tio? Well, facebook keep donorsearch all social media for us is challenging, i would say, because by virtue of the kind of non-profit that we are, we are key audiences are always residents to currently live in the house. Alumni, donors trust these other people that know of our work. So it’s, we’re always kind of throwing different messages for different populations, all on the same channels because they’re all there falik it would be it would probably be nicer if we could say all the alumni are only on facebook or all the trustees are only on twitter that’s not realistic that unfortunately that is not going to go to them where they are exactly s o i think it’s been it’s been a lot of integration. To say the least, whether it’s the facebook groups like right now i know we have an alumni reunion coming up next weekend and kind of a lot of the mo mentum for it really started on facebook. Thehe lums, who are the co chairs of the reunion committee, released kind they started their own subgroup within our group. Yeah, that was okay, everybody who’s coming to make sure you’re make sure you get your registrations in, make sure you consider making a gift along with your registration. These are all the events we have going on. We hope to see you there, bring your kids if you if you there’s someone that you lost touch with, we’ll see if we can reconnect you with them. Is there someone you know who doesn’t hear from the house anymore? Make sure you two have them send us their new information. You’re happy to have them piggyback on. Oh yeah, international houses facebook poll that make not like, you know, it’s a violation of policy or something? No, i mean there it’s much better for us to have them out there doing it, getting the message to their friends who, while i’m sure, most the bulk of them live like tar page generally know what we’re talking about. But there it’s all. They’re always going to be much more responsive to someone that they know personally. Me or director development of the element i relations director putting something up saying, hope we see you at the reunion there. Are they all the other aliens happening? Okay, but i think the point is that that degree of flexibility, yes, that’s when someone wants to take the ball, including using your, you know, piggybacking on your organization fund-raising page, you allowed it. Oh, of course. I mean, you want that. I want them to feel comfortable putting those messages out because of those people who are pushing the message out are going to be much more effective in their outreach. Then we could be talking to their friends exactly as close as you get. You know, you won’t ever have the relationship that they have exactly with their friends, talking alternative radio twenty four hours a day. Do you need a business plan that can guide your company’s growth? Seven and seven will help bring the changes you need. Wear small business consultants and we pay attention to the details. You may miss our coaching and consultant services are guaranteed to lead toe. Right, groat. For your business, call us at nine. 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It will make you smarter. Hey, all you crazy listeners looking to boost your business? Why not advertise on talking alternative with very reasonable rates? Interested simply email at info at talking alternative dot com metoo i have other other online strategies, so well, we’re also wanted were dipping toes. I mean, we’re on twitter and a lot of the messaging there has been focused around current events happening at the house kind of as they’re happening, so there has been some live tweeting i know we did some live tweeting of our gala that was on tuesday because we were honoring big named more more i could do more name dropping if you if you so desire, go ahead, drop one that’s not your you know what my problem was? You’re promoting yourself it’s good thing you have written a book yet we would’ve heard that six times by now we’re ten minutes in, i would have it the title six times. I i’m a long way to go before i’m writing a book, but fareed zakaria is one of our trusty outstanding cnn and yes, fareed zakaria gps fundez he was one of the people we’re honoring he’s going on our board for ten years eso he got our award for promoting international understanding, so he was among the very impressive group that were there. S o i know there was some of the trustees were live tweeting, but also we were live tweeting for constitutional account, okay, just so that people could see oh, this is really happening over its cars, getting his award and all paul volcker speaking and okay, and how do you feel this all relates back to donor retention? I think it relates back because latto things like live tweeting, let people see things are actually happening, let them see that we brought a group of residents there to make sure that the special event donors really get a really a clear understanding of the house and what it is are really mission is all about because if you it’s one thing to have a special event, raise all this money and then everybody goes home and feels fine. But it’s it’s always been a priority for us to make sure that the residents were there so they can sew the donors can meet them because a lot of a lot of special event donors, by virtue of not being annual fund owners per se are not necessarily being alums do not come to a lot of our events, so we’re trying to capitalize on the opportunity of having them all in one space to say here, meet some of our impressive scholarship recipients here metoo of the residents have done really impressive things, and i have plenty more to do in their careers so that they can really start to see the value that they’re providing to our community. And for those who can’t come, you’re able to engage them. They think they can see it on twitter. They can book a cz more photos air coming in from the photographer were trying to push those right back out through links on our website on dh through facebook converters so people will, then they say all way or if you were there, you know, someone who was there, you could go through the photos and say, oh, oh, oh so until i got to talk to frieda cardio that’s impressive. So it’s, i think it meets a lot of different purposes without nearly as much effort as it could take. What is the international house doing? That’s ah, you think really exemplary in doner retention slideshare temporary dahna retention that’s a very good question. Well, that’s, that could be another opportunity for me to pat myself on the back so i’m going to seize on this because you did a perfectly tony, i would think thee one on one reporting we’re doing now for a scholarship recipients, because there are a lot of scholarship funds that have been created probably in the last forty years, some through capital campaigns, some kind of much more independently as someone gets to that point in the major gift cultivation process that they decide they want to create a scholarship fund that stewardship is also has really been really important for us because a lot of those donors again are not in new york city don’t get to come to our events or meet residents at all, and the residents are everything whenever in the spring is usually when i get to do all my interviews with scholarship recipients, and i really enjoy it for one just because in the development office there’s so few opportunities to just engage with residents and just kind of here about what are they studying? What do they want to do in their careers? But this is a great opportunity to come in, talk to them, get there, kind of get their story figure out. What it is, they’re really focused on and then be able to share that information with a donor who can say, oh, i made a gif five years ago, fifteen thousand dollars and its supporting great people like this so especially, i think, it’s i think it’s even more important for people who are not in the new york area than for those who usually do come to events and kind of have a feel for the people that live at the house cause i think we’ve gotten some really positive feedback from people about, uh oh, i had forgotten about this xero this has been so interesting and engaging, i feel like i’m really a part of what’s going on at the house, even if i live in another country and for us that’s that’s the heart of it because we have alumni spread out literally around the world and it’s hard to keep them engaged keep them feeling connected to the work that’s happening in new york while they’re also alumni that’s going on all over the world, but they don’t always get to meet the residence. This reporting lets you know it’s, broaden it for non-profits that may not have alumni and followship maybe in something different you’re essentially talking about outcomes reporting yes, little really see okay, you’re you’re fund of fifteen thousand dollars produced let’s say two thousand dollars in the last year that two thousand dollars supported two or three to three residents, and they’re thieves, they’re they’re what they’re going for in their careers. This is what they’re studying, and this is what they’ve done in the last two years while they lived at the house that has really changed, exposed them, open their eyes to different cultures, expanded their horizons and let them see a lot more potential in the areas they wantto work. Yeah, those are all valuable outcomes impacts that donors air now, you know, within the past four, five years, much more interested in that’s, right? Of course, other other methods of sharing impact at a place like international house way, we’ve been experimenting with some video. I’d like to do mohr video right now, of course. Well, but this is not that i’m not going teo sametz out any donorsearch they’re not going to be interesting. Yeah, it will hurt your i don’t want to hurt your e-giving thank you very much. Ah ah, but no it’s really more. In the last two years ago, some residents actually created their own video just kind of encapsulate there i house experience that we’ve been able to use from youtube. Okay, but i really like to do something probably every year, every two years that maybe some scholarship president’s talking about their experience way have a whole lot of some of the different artists it’s in the leadership programs just so that people can people outside of new york and don’t get to be there really just get to see and even for use at special events where people don’t know what it is we do it’s an easy way to say watch this for two minutes at least you’ll have a flavor for what it is we do the caliber of people that live there and the really impressive people that also have participated in our programs. How many residents are there in a given calendar year? It’s, usually between seven hundred and a thousand oh, my gosh is much bigger than i thought, and seventy percent of the resident population is always international we usually try to keep it to seventy percent international, thirty percent domestic on and they can stay for a short is thirty days and as long as three years. And is there just one location, or do you have multiple residences where? I mean, there are there are multiple international houses were the only one in new york. We’ve been open it. We will be ninety next year. Excellent. Where where is it? In new york, we are all on riverside drive. Almost diagonal from grant’s tomb and next across the park from riverside church. Come in view of the hudson. We have great. Some of some of the residents have amazing views across the river. Some have great views through secure a park and onto riverside church grants tomb s oh, there are it’s a nice views considering where you are and we one of them. Anything one of the many things we’re doing for the residents a za part of our operating support. In addition to found scholarships and fellowships that we provide help them put on programming for the community. We’re usually subsidizing residents by at least twenty five hundred dollars per resident based on what they would be paying to. Have to live in the same area, have the same amenities at their immediate disposal on dh that’s really important to us in addition to providing between four hundred, five hundred thousand dollars a year in scholarship and fellowships, so that it’s easier for them to participate in the community, because that’s there we really believe that they get the most out of their time, thereby being engaged in the community by attending program sam’s, getting to know other people from other parts of the world, because our alumni are always very proud too. Lee, go out and then say, oh, if i find myself in sri lanka, i’ve got five people i know. I find myself in djibouti i know three people i’ve been to srilanka, by the way colombo the capital, your and then i went north into the jungle, and tio advomatic fora long i spent about four foot now better part of a week, five days or so we’ll get more well traveled than i thought so. Let’s let’s, bring it back to dahna returned? Yes. How? How important do you think the annual fund is for us? I’m sorry. I don’t mean the annual fund. I meant the annual report, how important is that? Donor-centric attention, i’m probably going, i’m probably going to i’m going to have to say they’re on some levels very important, but to other people totally inconsequential. I mean to i think for the higher level donors, it’s i think with a higher level donors it’s going to be it’s always going to be of interest, to at least be able to have something tangible and see a while in a meeting. Oh, oh, this is this year. This is last year’s annual report, and this is what? Okay, we meet met thes three these big objectives, here’s, some photos, here’s, the important financials. We added these people to the board and they’re bringing all this extra capacity to what we’re doing. But i think also for the annual fund donor-centric dollars a year, i don’t think they are, in my experience, at least working with them. They seem to be less interested in that it’s much more. Okay, tell me about the residents and what they’re doing and much less of the hard core metrics. Hardcore financials. What what’s really actually happening, but that’s, that is obviously a generalization because we have thousands of dollars. What about the house website, the isles webster terms of not don’t just describe it, but in terms of donorsearch engagement in retention just because we’re recently released a new website unveiled it rather, andre were very intentional about providing and as one specific area where we are sharing quotes from residents. I don’t think we have any video clips up yet, but that’s one of my goals for the next fiscal year that’s really focused about how do your gifts impact this community? And how does it mean so that’s mean for us? I think it’s, i’m hoping for the future going forward. People will be able to go to the website and really get to be able to see very clearly if i give international house one hundred dollars, what am i supporting and to know reasonably ok it’s going to be supporting leadership programs, scholarships, fellowships, outings that we do all over the city and within the region for people to learn more about the city and the u s but also have those opportunities to get to know each other. That noise behind dan is a spinning wheel the booth adjacent. Ours is giving away either caps, t shirts, mugs or a chance to win an ipad, and you spin the wheel for the chance and that’s what you’re hearing. So so yes, we’re not we’re not having a dan does not have any kind of speech impediment have this ability to make a ah native american, i don’t clicking sound while he’s talking and speaking code. There was no code underlying what dan was saying strictly a raffle wheel thank you for that very talented man, but does not do the clicking sounds as he’s yeah, the otherwise i think you work for the national security agency if you were able to. Ok, i’ll take it all right, let’s say, well, let’s dahna retention let’s leave listeners with one mohr one more. One more thing they have advice for small and midsize shops, you know, not alumni related like international house, i would say be sure that you are tracking when you send out whatever sort of fund-raising appeals you’re sending out, whether they’re direct mail, email, web based, make sure you’re tracking who they came from what’s kind of the tone that you’re taking, whether you’re talking specifically about impact, or just really, about good works. And then kind of the basic metrics of response rates. So you, khun, be able to compare over maybe two to three years to say, okay, what do more are more donors responding to a message from a trustee? Are more donors responding? The message from the president of the board? Someone who’s actually benefited from our programs, and if we’re talking specifically about impact, do a certain kind of donorsearch sponsor that one, and because all of this information really will help you better cater your message to the various constituencies that you have, but if you know certain donors on a regular appeal will give you fifty dollars. But when you talk specifically about you provide a clear picture of one resident, one person who has benefitted from your cause, they are, they’ll go from fifty to one hundred dollars, then, you know you need to keep sending them impact pieces and not just generic asked pieces so that’s that that’s an easy ruling road we can and we can explore that a little bit more. We got a couple minutes basically talking about testing. Yes, right. So it’s a little more about how you how you conduct your test for me, it’s thus far, it’s really been been able to look back at i think i usually go at least four or five years back to say ok, which appeals? What was really the response rate? Let’s. See how many people were we mailing to? What did that mean? And then say how much money was raised? Obviously, every donor average gift bob, her donor on dh then kind of try to figure out, even though it is. Every appeal is always different. You can it’s hard to pin the differences on any one thing. But if you’re seeing a trend that people are responding mohr two appeals from trust members of the board of trustees. Theun. Then you know, that’s that obviously needs to be something you’re focused more on. But you have to set up a method of tracking these things. Well, yes, i mean, for me, i do something. I keep it very basic. Usually reckon all in excel brothers, the response rates, the author’s kind of the tone way have what other variables? D’oh, d’oh control for still average average. Give her donor the number of donors that actually responded the number of gifts just so that, you know, just it’s much more about having for me having as much information as possible because you could even see in the economic downturn. Yes, while we may not have received as many gifts, the percentage is still stayed reasonably around. What are averages have been okay, so it wasn’t. It was an opportunity to say yes, our totals are down like everyone else is in america, but people are still giving at or above the usual rate, so we really don’t have it. It’s not like we not like we lost fifteen percent of our donor base just because the economy was a mess. And then this way you also have this data that you can go to your supervisors with you’re bored with to justify perhaps increases. Yeah, in spending in certain ways by saying, you know, we’ve got the evidence that more money spent here is very, very likely to have more money bear more. Yeah, exactly. All right. We’re going to get their damned like, well, that sounds good to me. I appreciate the opportunity to be with you and get to your listeners to my pleasure. We’re connected in lots. Of different ways on the social networks. Oh, yes. Ok, it’s, good to see you in person. Blakemore’s. The thank you is the assistant director of development for individual giving at international house in new york city and we’re in new york city with live coverage of fund-raising day two thousand thirteen. Thank you very much for being with us. My thanks to dan blakemore, little quick live listener love before we take a break guangzhou, china, shanghai as well. Ni hao it’s francisco imbriano zara is francisco. Thank you for that tweet. Got you. Ah, we gotta try to we got to get the alejandro. Where is she? 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I want to get try to get all three of them to talk about that overhead myth letter tony steak to my block this week is die without a will and reduce your state’s deficit. A man from new york city died with a forty million dollar estate he was ninety seven years old didn’t have a will and has no family that has been found, and that combination means that his forty million dollars will be paid to the state of new york. I think that’s quite unfortunate lots of charitable good could’ve been done with that or a portion of the estate just very unfortunate that someone would be ninety seven and not have a will on, according to the new york times coverage which i have linked in my blogged he was about to, but his his accountant, i think or his attorney was was on vacation. And when that person came back, he was finally going to do is will but ninety seven is a long, long time to wait to do well. There’s a possible planned e-giving lesson in there. Maybe you can use some this or something like it for, you know don’t let this happen to you. And the story is more fleshed out on my blogged at tony martignetti dot com the post is die without a will and reduce your state’s deafness. Buy-in that is tony’s take two for friday, the fifth of july twenty seventh show of the year and show number one hundred and forty nine. Next week is the sesquicentennial but it’s going to be low key? Just a, uh, just a regular show. Not a dull show. Just a loki show. Not celebratory, necessarily. I mean, i’ll mention it, but that could be a big celebration. All right, that’s enough on what what’s planned. Scott koegler, are you there? I am here, tony. And you know what? I just heard that my great grandfather just died somewhere up there. And i think that i haven’t been in contact with him for a long time. Well, that and have to be on your mother’s side because his last name was bluhm. Okay, well, it was definitely on my mother. It was anybody’s side. Okay, well, congratulations, scott. Koegler, of course, the editor of non-profit technology news. Which you’ll find at n p tech news dot com and on twitter, you can follow scott he’s at scott koegler konigstein our and our regular tech contributor welcome back, scott. Thank you, tony. Good to be here again, like been forever. I think it has been we might have missed a month for some reason. I’m not sure why, but there has been a while, but you’re back and we’re planned for many months into the future. Oh, good. Yes. Let’s talk about tablets. What? Who? The ipad ipad dominates the tablet market. Isn’t that true? Um, well, it dominates in terms of maybe maybe numbers. I’m not really sure the of the domination at this point because the there’s so many versions of android, you know, because it’s a free operating system right now also, lots of tablet makers are able to do lots of things with it, and certainly the tablets have kind of taken over the world. I have a couple of i mean, between my wife and i, we have to wait for, well, almost anything that we you don’t need a keyboard for, you know? So they’re definitely all over and there’s the there’s, the microsoft surface, of course android also, um, this is their surface android. I know this microsoft windows eight be windows that’s, right? Of course would be window. Yeah, yeah, see, that’s, why that’s why i need you on more often, you know, of course, that would not be android that would not be the google offering that would be windows. But i know microsoft is in the is in that business and which is not that common. They don’t produce much hardware right then. And just as a kind of interesting point there. Did you know that the microsoft surface, not necessarily the tablet, but the surface was the very first kind of a tablet ish kind of thing was a table with multi touch technology that could actually recognize objects that was placed on it. And that was the very first generation of that kind of technology and wasn’t that long ago. Interesting. So it knew whether you had a a stein of beer or a cup of coffee, is that what you mean? It could do that? One of the things that they did that was very interesting was you could take a digital camera and just lay it on the on the surface and it would extract the images and display them across the table. And then you could kind of manipulate them around the table. Pretty interesting. Okay, i probably couldn’t distinguish between like, if you had a glass of sauvignon blanc and a glass of chardonnay. You probably wouldn’t know the difference between those, though. Well, there’s an app for that it’s called someone a app. Oh, yeah, you were wind. You are a your wine aficionado final? Yes, way. We’re talking about that. We’ve talked about that a long time ago on dh. Speaking of fine wines, we have we have someone listening from marseilles. Marseilles, marseilles? Yeah, sure. Yes. Welcome. I hope you come back marseille, but all right. But this is an app for that. But let’s, talk about tablet aps on mostly for fund-raising. You have some? You have some ideas there. Are and i think that there’s i think it really kind of those two directions here. One is tablets for just as an alternative to what you do in the office, you know, makes it, if you out about you want to have your tablet and you, khun really manage your basic activities, just threw a browser. So those are really aps, but it is a way to use it. But from what i can tell most, uh, up and coming used for tablets is in events. Okay, that makes sense, right? Because you can have multiple people of your multiple staff members at events with tablets, they can all be accessing the same applications or different applications, depending on what their jobs are so they could be walking around. Um, managing the the auction, the silent auction or the real option, they can be signing up people for their for their newsletter for their email. They can be doing interviews, you know, videos with the with the tablet and post them in real time onto social media or hang on to them for editing later. So you lot lots and lots of applications that may or may not require specific aps, you know, for fund-raising or her non-profits i like the tablet itself is certainly becoming a big deal. I like the idea of having people roving around. I mean, especially shooting video, it could be the shooting like testimonial videos that could be selling some things, or maybe even accepting donations because you can put a simple card reader, plug a simple card reader in and do cash transactions, right? Right on the spot, right? And i think that’s one of the easiest to get hold of is the taking donations, you know? You’re right either, at the point of the reason that the people showed up that’s for a lot of non-profits know, the event is the thing, right? I mean, that’s that’s, how they get a lot of their activity. Right? So having the tablet with, um ah, and the ability, tio, physical hit people up right there. Not just say yes, i will. I will be a sponsor. I will donate. Okay. Let’s, do it. Yeah. It’s, the old, you know, take out the check book except there’s. No checkbook, right? Yeah. It’s. That is in some constituencies that that may work the on the spot donation. So you have some have some sites for us. Some resources i do, and i were just talking about the ability to take donations on the spot, and they’re they’re three that i that i know of. I think there are many more. Obviously, they’re square, which is the ubiquitous little thing, that little square block that you stick into the earphone jack, um, and squares is one again the most widely known, probably okay, and that’s, the card reader. You slide it, use that card, were used to get into your phone, jack, but it’s, a card reader, and there are there three other card leaders that i’ll just mention, because everybody pretty much knows square there’s, one from paypal. And everybody knows paper may not have known that they also had a card reader. So paypal is great for donations because a lot of people have paypal accounts and they can donate from there that’s one of those abs? Well, we’re really well on the tablet, and then you can get the papal card reader. Teo, go directly to paper. There’s one called blue pay blu e p a y dot com that is another ah swipe leader for your tablet and then there’s into it into it, you know, the famous company for quickbooks and quicken in those things. Yes. So they also have away and i haven’t looked at it, but i have to believe that that card reader most likely interfaces directly with they’re they’re probably, um, with their application, you know? So if you swipe, it goes right into your accounting so that for an organization that already uses quickbooks or quicken, that might be a really good option right here. Ok. All right. So those are all the cash transaction ones. And i’ve even done this. I’ve bought books at aa book signing. And you you sign your name right on the on the line using your finger. Right? Right? Yep. Just draw your name, right? Yep. Well, i i’m accustomed to signing with a crayon. I had to make the transition to my fingertips, but i was able to manage wei have just about a minute before break aside from card readers and cash transactions. What, what what else have you got for us? Um, there’s one suggestion, and that is be sure that whatever applications that makes sense also integrate directly with your social media, facebook, twitter and google. Plus, whatever else you may be using two, but we can talk about a couple of things that do that so that you’re not doing double entry and double posting it disclosed immediately in to your social media, from whatever else you’re doing. Yes, you’ve got some apse that work within facebook very well. And when we come back in a couple of moments, we will talk about them. Hope everybody stays with us. Dafs you’re listening to the talking alternative network. Are you stuck in your business or career trying to take your business to the next level, and it keeps hitting a wall? This is sam liebowitz, the conscious consultant. I will help you get to the root cause of your abundance issues and help move you forward in your life. Call me now and let’s. Create the future you dream of. 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Welcome back to big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent even more live listener love, it’s, amazing stockton, california always appreciate the golden state checking in sucked in in the oakland san francisco area west east of there, of course, but stockton live. Listen love to you. Lots of people in seoul, south korea. Welcome south korea. Of course. Anya haserot up at quarter to two in the morning listening in seoul. Thank you. And many of you as well should jury japan konichiwa. And from south carolina. Scott koegler you’re in me. You’re in south carolina, right? Scott, i have that i am a doctor. Alana. Tony. Okay. What town? Where you were you calling in from my town is named traveller’s rest traveller’s rest. Oh, yeah, we’ve talked about that. Sounds like an insane asylum. Ah, sunday or a nursing home. Okay. Shoretz, i’m sure it’s. Very lovely. I’m sorry. I’m well, yeah, they called it traveller’s rest. I mean, they have to expect some some comments about that. Uh, one thing about it is there is only one in the country. Is that right? Okay. Okay. There’s. Only one new york city, too. That’s. True. What do you have for us that does? Fund-raising and works inside facebook? Um, there are a couple of them one that i’ve seen is called fund raiser that’s fun are ese, are if you just go on the facebook into search for you’ll find it it’s uh, it’s, an app that is actually within facebook and, of course, then facebook works on tablets pretty well. So it’s really not a nap. It’s really a facebook application, but, you know, since a lot of fund-raising and social activity goes on in facebook that it’s really a kind of a natural for for any kind of a non-profit trying teo integrate all the pieces together, okay? That’s yeah, they’re they’re also at ah, fundraiser, as scott said, r a z e r dot com i mean, as you said, scott yes, fundraiser don’t count as well. What do you what is it? What you like? You’re okay? So you like their social media integration? Any any fees around? Fundraiser? Do you know? Um, you know what? I’m not sure about feeds? I don’t i don’t believe there are. I’m not sure how the what their business, um, plan is in terms. Of back-up you know, making yeah, how they were living. Okay, okay, well, listeners can look att fundraiser inside facebook. What else is going on in facebook? Um well, there’s, a couple of there’s one called causes spelled just like you think it would be. I’m really less familiar with that even less familiar than i am with fundraiser, but i know that causes is one of those applications have been brought to my attention and it’s big, i mean, it’s got looks like almost nine million likes and so that’s much larger than fund-raising, which actually was only about ten, ten thousand, i think so. No ten thousand what? And ten thousand users, users okay, okay. Causes and causes was founded by a couple of friends of the facebook founder mark zuckerberg. I saw one was his former roommate from harvard and one was a former president of facebook, so they’ve got some ins face-to-face they’ve got a pretty high, high connection att facebook okay, causes anything else going on in inside facebook? Well, it’s probably a lot, but those are the only ones that i really know about, okay? I also found a site called inside facebook dot com, which has a bunch of different sites that that use well, operate within facebook, so obviously use, use that social media tool in conjunction with fund-raising and and other things well, inside facebook dot com. Okay, what else you got? Scott and there’s, one application that actually is a nap for for tablets, actually, little workout smartphones as well, but it works on tablets and that’s called razz mobile that’s r a z mobile dot com and on, you know, it’s one of those things. That’s. Uh, it does cost, although i let me see if i know how much it costs. But it is. It is one of those applications you could walk around with and use in an event you can also integrated into other applications. Facebook, twitter, whatever, whatever else you like, it allows you to basically running your you’re non-profit. I would say it could take a place of a blogged. For instance. Whatever you do on there can be posted as news. You can post it out to your social media. Uh, you’re gonna have your videos to it. All those kind of things plus believe it has a donor management function with it. Yep, it does. So you, khun making appeal, take a poll and ask people to donate when they don’t get it on their tablet or on their smartphone. They can interact directly with it by making donations right there. Okay, so it’s sort of a network unto itself? Yes. Yes. It’s. Uh, well, you know, it’s a cloud based application. So anything that you do connects with everything else. Okay, i did get a question from twitter from live listener. Lynette. Lynette, welcome to the show. Glad you listening. Um, she asked a question going back to the card readers. Scott today, do they allow you to capture the cardholders? Information for non-profits it would be helpful for follow-up communications. Do you know if if you can capture other like, contact info? Uh, that i don’t. I would expect that on the face of it. They probably do not because there’s there’s gotta be some privacy implications there, for instance, is definitely not going to it will capture the information from the swipe it will not save that much i know, and i would think that if you’re using the one that integrates with quicken there’s probably window that pops up, that allows you to, um, to capture additional information, although i’ve never used that, so i really can’t bounce for, but knowing how quick and works a, i would think that that’s probably one of those we’ll be there, okay? Lynette says that she likes the idea of using tablets and card readers for on site donations, but wants to be able to continue the conversation beyond just a donation. I guess in that case, if you’re not able to capture it through the transaction app, you no, get the get the person’s business card, and i always like to make notes on cards after him away from the person. So, you know, for that i would probably put, you know, donation or a dollar sign or something on the card just to remind me that it’s somebody who made a donation and that’s and that’s why i want to follow-up that’s a very you know, old world. Jeez, we’ve been exchanging business cards for for generations. I wish i had something more high tech for you, lynette, but i would say grab the person’s business card if you can’t get it inside the app, well, i can offer one thing on their you’re probably familiar with what evernote and have i ever knowed is a is one of those krauz based applications that will even capture almost anything in every note. But they have an app that you can install that connects with evernote, and i think it’s called people. And so what that allows you to do is bring up every note on your tablet, snap a picture of the person and then put in their contact information right there, so that actually would be a really good application for that. And then ever note, um, i will go into the description of every note because it will do so many, many things, but basically it’s a big storage cabinet for anything we want toe record. Okay, cool there’s a record that as proud of you are part of your event. You can then connect that into your your fund-raising applications as well. All right, lynette, thank you for for that message. That was a direct message from lynette, but of course you can always use hashtag non-profit radio if you want. Teo, connect with us and join the conversation on twitter. Scott, we only have about thirty seconds left. Regrettably went quick. What’s right what’s one more site that that you want to expose people to, uh, here’s one if you don’t, if you can’t find the after what you want and you want something specific, try i not for-profit i not-for-profits dot com. You could make your honor grayce non-profits okay. There you go. We you and i know that you and i have talked about creating your own app. Of course. You gotta make sure it’s, widely known after it’s created otherwise. Nobody’s gonna know that’s if you want to sell it, this would be just for your own use for your own. Whatever application you want to do for non-profit. So this is not a commercial thing that you’ll sell this just something you i got you using internally. Excellent. All right, scott. Thank you very much. Excellent. Scott koegler, editor of non-profit technology news at n p tech news. Dot com, and on twitter he’s at scott koegler. Good to talk to you. Thanks very much, scott. Take your time, lynette live listener lynette, thank you very much for your question and uh and you’re welcome live listeners everywhere over all over the world from new york, new york too where’s, the further star shoe jiri, japan welcome s so happy to have somebody live listeners today next week, beth cantor, author of the network to non-profit and measuring the network to non-profit will we’ll run that interview from fund-raising day next week? And maria semple is back she’s, our prospect contributor and the prospect finder google alerts may be going goodbye maria’s got alternatives for you and of course, next week the sesquicentennial but a low key sesquicentennial. Have you liked our facebook page? 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