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Hyre hello and welcome to tony martignetti non-profit radio i’m your aptly named host tony martignetti we’re talking about big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent. We’re live today, we’re going to be taking your calls shortly for alice march and scott koegler alice is going to alice aspen march is going to be joining me. We’re going to be talking about attention being present and scott koegler is the editor of non-profit technology news he’s, the show’s tech expert, and we’re going to be talking about fund-raising software you might remember last week, we had tips to save you money and time on your printing and direct mail that was last week this week were paying attention to people and technology. After the break, i’ll be joined by alice aspen march talking about attention before that, i’d like to spend just a moment talking to you about your plan to giving program and keeping that ahead of the curve surfing your planned giving to stay ahead of the cresting wave. 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Interested simply email at info at talking alternative dot com dafs welcome back to tony martignetti non-profit radio big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent in a moment, i’ll be joined by alice aspen march, and we’re gonna be talking about paying attention, giving attention to your donor’s, your coworkers, board members and volunteers and later in the show, i’ll be joined by scott koegler, the show’s tech expert he’s, the editor of non-profit technology news, and he returns to the show with the latest reviews of fund-raising software. Whether your budget and donor list are several hundred or you have many thousands, there is software that is suited to your size and your bottom line, and scott will join us later in the show. Right now, i’m joined by alice aspen march, the founder of the attention factor, you’ll find that at the attention factor dot com alice is has appeared on many television and radio shows and has been extensively quoted in print and online outlets talking about attention. Alice aspen, march welcome to the show. Thank you, tony alice, there aren’t many people talking about paying attention and giving attention to others. What first do you mean when you’re talking about attention? Well, first of all, you’re right, nobody is talking about it like i am paying attention is the most important part of our lives because attention is with us twenty four seven and people know today when you’re not paying attention, especially when you’re on your cell phone or you’re texting or you’ve got your earphones on or you’re looking at your computer or your answering a phone, and people feel that what i mean by paying attention or being present is when you are listening to somebody when you are looking at them, when you’re in their energetic field and when you’re not people can feel invisible or not respected or not included are angry and they they withdraw, they act out the roots of your work are pretty personal. Yes, they are because i have three adult sons, and one day i discovered that my youngest one, who had been a television addict nobody was talking about that at all at that time had gone on to abuse drugs, and i was really terrified, tony, that i could lose him. And so i went looking for the role i played in his dysfunctional behavior and att first i changed my life, selby. But i didn’t know what i was looking for. It was very frustrating until i had an epiphany in a u c l a extension class. I lived in los angeles at the time i had an epiphany over the word attention, and i knew that was a clue. So then i went looking for everywhere i could find anything about it, and strangely enough, the on ly place i found it was attached to a d h d and a d day, and that wasn’t really what i was looking for, so i went further into the subject and i have a generalist mind, and pretty soon i realized i was reading about attention, but they never used the word. So in about a year, i had a body of work, which i took to a spot that i’d spoken at years before, and i realized that my subject matter resonated with everybody because attention is everybody’s primary need my guest is alice aspen march, founder of the attention factor, and we’re taking your calls today. The number to call for alice is eight seven seven for eight xero forty one twenty eight, seven, seven for eight xero for one to zero for calls to alice aspen, march alice it sounds like with greater attention we can increase our own and maybe and probably other people’s productivity efficiency as well as well being. Tony, you’ve just said the magic words yes, the deprivation of attention leads to it can lead to disease, it can lead to violence it can lead to stealing in in corporate the corporate world, people need attention and when they don’t get it, they’ve got to act out. So when they do get the kind they need, of course, productivity goes up. Morale in a corporate world goes up, people’s relationships change and our positive i’ve had people who have heard me on a ship or in europe or new zealand and say to me afterwards, i don’t believe this. Why haven’t we heard this before? You basically just change. You saved my daughter’s life or i’m going home and treat my employees differently, or i’ve got to do something about my wife or now i know what’s been wrong and my marriage for forty three years yes, is this is obviously pervasive work that you’re doing affecting personal and professional relationships and to bring it home for our listeners, i’m thinking about relationships with boardmember sze volunteers, co workers, co workers may be working for you or you’re working for them or against you when you mentioned violence, that makes me think a little bit of that phrase going postal violence, that’s not the only place the postal service is not the only place where people where we’ve seen violence in the workplace, certainly, but it can rise to that level. And is your sense that a lot of that violence stems from people not being respected and getting attention in words of one syllable, yes, and, you know, of course, that expression going postal came out of the post office, you see, an exit interview is vital for people that you’re letting go because it’s a closure for them, and if they don’t get that when they don’t get that they feel invisible. And he certainly went back to the workplace and made himself visible by taking out a lot of people, you know? And even more recently, there was something in in binghamton, new york, yes, on alison and just the minute we have left before the break, alice really back of course after the break may be there just one one way you can give us one or two of listening better. How can we be better at giving attention? Well, first of all, you could turn off all your tech stuff. Okay, so she’s vital, vital tony? Yes, that’s ah that’s first and foremost is my cell phone on vibrate? I think, yes, i did do it for the show. But yes, you’re right know where we have we have kottler way have become immersed in a culture that does not listen does not listen to each other and it doesn’t seem to be getting any better, and people are feeling out there talking about that more that he doesn’t listen to me or they don’t listen to me or she doesn’t listen to me. We’re going to take a break. Alice, my guest is alice has been march, founder of the attention factor. Please stay with us. You didn’t even think that shooting getting dink dink, dink, dink. You’re listening to the talking alternative network get in. Cubine hi, i’m new york state senator joe a dabo. I will be hosting a Job fair on friday, november 12 and aqueduct racetrack in queens, contending into three p m, we will have over one hundred companies looking for qualified workers. They’re all to be lectures on jobs, try to jeez and networking. 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Call us now at to one to seven to one eight, one eight three that’s to one to seven to one eight one eight three or find us on the web at www dot double diamond wellness dot com way. Look forward to serving you. You’re listening to the talking alternative network. Welcome back. My guest is alice aspen march. The founder of the attention factor at the attention factor. Dot com alice. Right before the break, we started to talk about ways that we can give attention in in much better ways and pay attention. Mohr and you mentioned turning off our tech gadgets. What? What else? How else should we be bestowing the attention that is so much needed by the people we work with and live with? Well, certainly one way and a unique way. That’s not very usual is to ask them. Ask somebody what kind of attention would you like from me? And i could bet that they don’t even know. So the next sentence that you would share with them would be. You may not know right now what kind of attention you want from me. But when you figure it out, please call me. Please let me know. So i can either give it to you. Are we can talk about it? Are it would make good conversation. So you think in a professional relationship that’s ah, that’s a fair question to ask now, this is let’s say boss and employee and the employees i guess asking the boss what what kind of attention do you need from me? Absolutely. Yes. First of all, it makes the employees feel visible that the boss really cares about her or him, and it opens up a whole world of communication. Absolutely. Alice, we have a caller. Barbara, welcome to the show. Barbara. Thank you, what’s use your question for alice barbara that i want. I know that i’ve turned a with my computers so that i’m giving her one hundred percent of my attention. Thank you. Also, i grieve with what you’re saying, and i tried to do that. That has to keep paying attention to someone when you’re when you’re talking to someone who just talks in circles, who never gets to the point. And it just gets so frustrating. And so i find that when that happens, my mind i just i go where had all focus those difficult, sort of, maybe frustrating, even moments when someone isn’t getting to the point. Alice so what do we do, what we do in that situation? First of all, how do you feel when that happens? Barber to you, that’s important to realize how do you know? When i’m not getting to the point. Yeah, well, you’re feeling frustrated, right? Okay, well, probably one thing you could certainly say to the person is i don’t think you’ve heard what i said because i’m feeling very frustrated about something right now. That’s a direct communication. Okay, are you going to say that? Well, i’m sorry to hear that. I know they would have had to see that that’s a good thing to say, oh, good are i need you to repeat back what i’ve just said to you so that i know that you got it because it’s really important, alice is clearly all about open communication that sounds like the advice that you’re giving not to be afraid to sort of, i guess, obviously politely but firmly asked for more ask for the attention you’re seeking. And in the case of barbra’s question, i asked for affirmation of what it is that you’re looking for are acknowledging tony closed. Communication doesn’t work, so you have to have open communication, but you have to know really what you need and if you need somebody to stop talking in circles, which is so really normal, you need that you have to you have to let them know that they’re really not getting you, and as i said, the way to get the way to alert them to that is to get to never repeat back what you’ve said, barber, does that help you? Thank you. All right, thank you very much for calling barbara. The number to call if you’d like to talk to alice is eight seven, seven for eight xero forty one twenty my guest is alice aspen march the founder of the attention factor, alice let’s focus more on how we can be better at giving attention be more attentive. Eso you’ve mentioned turning off electronic devices? I mean, those air obviously distracting and your point is people feel that distraction asking for attention, asking what type of attention is is being sought. Are there other ways that we can be better at this? Well, once you ask somebody what kind of attention they need and you start a conversation, you’re going to get lots of information. They’re going to tell you what they need and how to give it to them and and and miracles happen. First of all, you’ve got to know that way. Our three different kinds of people, some of us need attention visually, some of us needed auditory lee. Is that a word? Yeah, auditory and another. Some of us need a kinesthetic lee. And when you established in aesthetics is movement correct? Like i’m flailing my arms right now as i’m talking to you, right? Well, you can hear it in people speech. They will either say, you know, i really see what you’re talking about. I hear what you’ve said, i really don’t feel that well, that’s a big clue that comes from really listening when you get that clue, you could address that need in that person and put it in put your conversation in visual terms or auditory terms or kinesthetic terms. You know i’d like to talk about retention that’s a new popular issue right now, it’s not only an issue in in your area, but it’s in the issue that i’m working with now college kids, you know, it usedto only belong in the corporate world. They would talk about retention because people leave. There was a tremendous turnover. Well, college kids are now leaving and trustees air now leaving and i believe firmly cause i hear this from enough people that they leave when they don’t get their needs met and their primary need is for attention. We’ve had a show actually about retaining the good employees that you work so hard to recruit way look to recruit the best not only employees, but also boardmember zand volunteers and it’s difficult for the organisation when there’s a lot of turnover. Um, your point is you think some of the this turnover could be reduced if people would just be more open about what they’re needs are around attention and fulfilling those needs. Toni, i’ve got lots of research in my files showing that employee turnover khun b reduced when employees start to get the kind of attention they are they need, and i’ve worked with a group. The bottom line personal publication corporation had a fight, fabulous experience. It was an experiment. It was called i power. Yes, tell us and they were losing a publication and they had tremendous turnover and stress in their workplace. And they developed this experience where they got their employees to tell them how they felt they could do their job better. There was a process involved in this, but not on ly did employ turnover cease the bottom line went up and and the hundreds of dollars were saved in tiny ways because employees know about waist and they really don’t want to waste their time, nor their owners resource is that it was a miracle. I took that course twice to see if they were doing what i wanted them to do, and they were fabulous story. Fabulous. This reminds me two of something that was in the is in the news very recently, there’s ah ah, university, harrisburg university of science and technology they’ve decided that for one week they were going to turn off access to all social media to the students, so there would be no text messaging, no facebook access um, no twitter access for a solid week and these air all the sorts of distracters that you’re talking about and what happened? No, they haven’t done it yet, it’s coming and i do it. I would like to know what they’re going to do. I mean, how it turns out, you know, there was a president of santa monica college when i lived there, who decreed that for one hour just one hour. Ah, weak. His staff and his service. People would do nothing but read that’s. What he proclaimed and the whole campus changed. People were starting to talk to each other again. The gardeners were talking to the only students because everybody want to know what the other person was reading. The point is, we need that in our lives. We need a turnoff. We need to start looking at people and paying attention. You know, i just moved to new york from los angeles, where i spent my life in a car isolated the difference. And living here is so overwhelming because i take the bus is i take the subways and i look at people and i talked to people. People are people. People are people all over, and they want to be talked to. They want to be looked at. They want to get directions if they look like they’re lost. I stopped. I stopped a couple of the other day in grand central station because the man was taking a photograph of his wife and i said to him, how would you like me to take a picture of both of you and this guy? Smiled from air to hear he couldn’t believe it. A small gesture you and i met on the subway. We met on the atria. We did did that’s how we met on the time we got to know each other. If someone has a difficult relationship with let’s, say a boardmember because that’s those can be sometimes the most the most excruciating. Ah, they where should they really start to try toe engage the person mohr or teo sort of hell the relationship. Well, i think if you really know that the relationship is out or not working, you ask him out for lunch and you say, you know, i’d like to talk to you about a few things and that’s when you could say, you know, i get that there’s not a lot of attention around here. What kind would you like? Are we are we scheduling meetings at the wrong time? Are you being harassed by my staff? Are you getting too many e mails? But, you know, over food, some wonderful things happen, and generally a person when you’re eating with them will be more comfortable and feels safer. Ah, and you can ask him, of course. If this is a good time to talk about what’s going on that the non-profit you’ve gotta enroll, people, enroll in and engage in roland, engage us, ask permission permission for what i ask permission to talk to him about what’s going on at the non-profit that is attention. I happen to like your idea of sharing a meal with someone it’s, it’s, it’s, a physical, sharing your sharing a physical space, the table. I also like that meals in a restaurant are timed. We know the flow exactly. They’re also aren’t going to be the office interruptions because you’re out of the office and adhering to your advice, you’ve turned off your cell phone. You want to be attentive to this person? So you have you’ve eliminated distractions, hopefully, and then there’s the physical level, the physical but the sharing of a meal and be sure you pick up the bill don’t let him i want to give you another example that occurred in one of my workshops. Ah woman’s boss would call her in for a meeting, and either he was on the phone or on his computer or texting or something, and the meetings were generally disasters. Because he would give her moments. And she said, what could i do? And i said, next time you see him in the hall say, could i have seven minutes of your time with no interruption? You know, if somebody hears is a beginning in the end, they can handle that. And so they set aside a seven minute time and went in, and they had the meeting with no interruptions. And he was the one at the end of the meeting. Who said, you know, this has been the best meeting we’ve ever had in just a brief period. Yes, and she was she was elated because when she walked out of his office before she felt deflated, depressed, un respected and a review nails particularly invisible, which is a terrible place to be and they were able to turn it around in just a seven minute meeting. That’s, right without interruption. You doing a five minute meeting? Alison? Just a minute. We have left. This also gets me thinking about two types of people. Are you actually think of the movie pulp fiction? The scene with uma thurman and and john travolta? Are you the kind of person? Who listens or either kind of person who waits to talk good question. There are both in our land and i’ve been guilty of both. So i am particularly joining the first group where i listen until the people are really done. And you know, tony, i’ve had people say to me, you know, you’re really a good lister, so i know that it’s happening for them. Well, john travolta would admire you because he answers that he’s the kind of person who waits to talk, but he says he’s working on it, alice, we have to leave it there. My guest has been alice aspen march, the founder of the attention factor, you confined alice thehe tension factor dot com and i want to thank her very much for joining us in the studio. After this break. We’ll be joined by scott koegler, the editor of non-profit technology news, our tech expert for the show and he’s goingto a share with us reviews of fund-raising software. Stay with me. Talking alternative radio twenty four hours a day. Hi, i’m new york state senator joe a dabo. I will be hosting a Job fair on friday, november 12 and aqueduct racetrack in queens, contending into three p m we will have over one hundred companies looking for qualified workers. They’re all to be lectures on jobs, try to jeez and networking. So come and bring plenty of resumes and join me on friday, november twelfth at aqueduct racetrack for a Job fair 10AM2 three p m. For more information, please call pete in my district office at seven one eight seven three eight one one one one. Hyre are you suffering from aches and pains? Has traditional medicine let you down? Are you tired of taking toxic medications? Then come to the double diamond wellness center and learn how our natural methods can help you to hell? Call us now at to one to seven to one eight one eight three that’s to one to seven to one eight one eight three or find us on the web at www dot double diamond wellness dot com way look forward to serving you. Hey, all you crazy listeners looking to boost your business? Why not advertise on talking alternative with very reasonable rates? Interested simply email at info at talking alternative dot com dafs welcome back to tony martignetti non-profit radio, i’m tony martignetti we’re talking big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent in a moment, i’ll be joined by scott koegler, the editor of non-profit technology news. Just for a moment, i’d like to spend a little time thinking about sharing, sharing your miss misfortunes, shortcomings failures. I’m seeing mohr of this among non-profits for a long, long time that has just been taboo, no donor wanted to be affiliated with a project or a program that wasn’t a smashing success, so everything that fell short of that we just kept silent about you may remember a couple of weeks ago i had stephanie strong, the national non-profit reporter for the new york times on, and we talked about her her coverage of failure fair, which was something sponsored by the world bank, no less, and she and i talked about how this longstanding pattern of not talking about shortcomings is slowly changing, and they were sort of seeing examples. And since that show, i’ve seen a couple of examples a pretty well regarded charity in terms of accountability and openness. Charity water shared a video where they we’re very open. The ceo was very open about a water drilling failure in in south african republic. And that was no less than their fourth anniversary. Video was the fourth anniversary of the charity, and they were sharing, ah, shortcoming, a project that did not go so well. And also, very recently, the ceo of the case foundation blogged about projects that don’t go aswell, as the business plan would often like. So i’m starting to see some examples of this. I blogged about it at m p, g a d v dot com, a very recent block post. But i’m just encouraging you to think about how. Failures and shortcomings don’t have to be abject failures, but can be turned around and shared with donors in a way that is productive not only for your non-profit but also for the non-profit community generally and importantly, is then accompanied by a very sensible plan for what to do next, and that actually has brought out in that in that case, foundation blogged post, and you’ll find links to all those on my blogged at mpg geever dot com. I’m joined now by scott koegler scott is the show’s technology expert and he’s, the editor of non-profit technology news. Scott, welcome back. Hi, tony. Thanks. Thanks for inviting me it. Nice to be here. Pleasure to have you back. We’re going to talk about fund-raising software. You’ve done some very recent reviews. Tell us what’s current in fund-raising software. Um, when we did recently, i think it was two weeks ago we put up a a list of different, uh, software products that are available specifically for fund-raising. And i think, uh, i think i’d like to start out with how do you go about making a selection? Yeah. How does an organization decide? What’s right for them, right? Because the reviews that we put up go from the very smallest, almost a single user organization up to multi use yourself, there’s a lot of variation in styles, types and costs, of course, and i kind of suggested three different criteria. When you go to look for software, the first one really is budget. You need to have some kind of money pretty much every one of these applications costs something a lot of them have three trials, but they really won’t get you very far. They need to find what kind of the budget you have that you might be able to spend on on a local application like this for a smaller organizations got that includes even if your budget is just in the several hundreds or even low thousands, you still can. You still can get some traction with this software. Certainly i there’s some that’s starting on the two hundred dollars, so they’re accessible teo, almost any size organization, but i still recommend starting with a budget for any size organization, even if you’re huge and what after budget, the second one would be help. That kind of the the makeup of the organization is everyone in the same place you’d be working in office is everybody coming to the same location? Or do you have people that work remotely? And that will kind of define a type of software that you’re looking for? Last time i was on, we talked a lot about haserot service, yes, and just to remind people that was the july sixteenth show. If you want to listen to got night, talking about software is a service. Sorry, scott, please go ahead. And so if you’re if you’re in one office, you’ve got some got all kinds of options there because you khun install the software on a pcr on a server in the office, and generally all of these applications can be used by multiple people, same time as long as there’s a network involved. But if there are people that are remotely located or working home, or even work with a smartphone, they get maximum ex accessibility through applications were there installed online. We’re sas suffers the service or hosted kinds of applications, which can be applied for people that all work in the same office just as easily. The only requirement there is that it that somehow you have an internet connection. So that that’s really the criteria? The stand alone? If you’re in one office, you definitely want to be ableto know that you can net workflows and it’s not just a single user application. Unless you’re very, very small with a one person staff and and scott, could you just distinguish for us? Ah, a couple of different installation methodologies, i guess there’s, the local network multi user and the sas local you described is that’s just installed on a pc what’s the difference between network and multi user, uh, good point and it’s also a very fine point. Networking implies the use of the server. So there’s, generally a server installed somewhere in the office. Servers generally run server operating systems like microsoft server or some kind of winnicks server. And soccer is installed there, and it is connected over the network to individual pc water stations. Multi user is just a bit different and it gets confusing and sometimes the definitions overlap. But multi user means that multiple people can use the same application doesn’t necessarily imply that that application’s installed on their server. It could just be installed on a pc that is connected to other pieces. Through a network in the office, i see and then you don’t have the the security concerns and even the physical cooling concerns that you have around server. I wouldn’t say that there are no security concerns because anytime anything is shared, their their security concerns, ok? And i think it’s pretty much a given anymore that any office is going to have internet access, and as soon as you open up that connection to the internet, then you have security concerns. But most applications today do a pretty good job off keeping the data safe, and there are plenty of security applications that air either low cost or no cost that could be installed on individual work stations or servers that will keep the bad guys away or at least make it very difficult for him to get in. I’m talking to scott koegler, the show’s technology expert scott’s, the editor of non-profit technology news, which you’ll find at n p tech news. Dot com scott let’s dive in and talk about some of the individual products that you’ve reviewed recently at non-profit technology news? Sure, and i’ll just say also that the products that i’m going to talk about here are written up in a article on the site, so if people want more detail on that, you can certainly go there. I’ll talk about the kind of start with the lower end there’s one called fundraiser basic software and again for the lynx, and this should go to the site, get the links. Uh, this is a single database system. It’s good for the fifty thousand donors, and that may be a lot that may not be enough for you, but that’s kind of a maximum for this type of application. It is multi user. But as i said, multiuse er means that it’s installed on a single on a single workstation and accessed over a network. Those who make it bad or good. It just means that it’s, not a server based installation. One of the things that fund-raising basic has is a pretty good mailing capability. So you can take your the donor list and they’ve made it out into different segments and then send me now out from there. And that’s, certainly one of the most basic and sometimes most important things that fund-raising organization could do. And you said we were starting at the low end? What are the startup costs for getting into fundraiser? Basic. The cost for the product is about two hundred dollars. Oh, my gosh, yeah, so that puts it within reach of i wouldn’t say anybody that certainly a lot of folks, so for two hundred dollars on organization can have ah, good features for up to fifty thousand donors, right? And its multi user, which is i mean, you could have i don’t know exactly what the limitations in terms of numbers of users, but i would say, you know, if it could go to ten that’s, probably more than most small organizations were made, and are there ongoing costs after the two hundred dollars initial purchase? With any of these applications, there typically annual subscription fees for maintenance and updates the in general, those he’s run about ten percent of the original purchase cost? I have to tell you that i don’t really know what the specific costs for fund-raising basic is in terms of ongoing costs, but if it’s twenty dollars, a year or even one hundred dollars a year that’s probably a bargain. No kidding. And does that fee typically include support if there are questions? Or is that usually just found online? I had a support work. I believe they offer female support rather than phone support than the support options there. I believe that they do have additional support options, but those with the extra cost. Okay? And that product again is called fundraiser basic. Is that right? That’s? Correct. All right. And what was another one you’d like to share with us? There’s one called a raise. A r a fast fund? No, the whole raise fast. Fund-raising non-profit fund-raising software. A long name. Okay, but they’ll find the link on your website. It and p tech news. Dot com. Right? Correct. Okay. When? When we just call it a raise on rachel is a good name for thank you. What do you want to tell us about a raise? Well, it’s it’s a little bit more expensive than fund-raising basic it’s. Three hundred dollars. But i would call that still in the bargain basement? Yes. No, it allows you to do batch entry of data. So if you have your list of donors already available, you can upload that into the system rather than enter them one at a time. And that that’s important to you. You know, if you’re coming from you have any kind of history at all. It gets pretty tedious. Tryingto enter name. Do you know? Would that include batch entry from an excel spreadsheet? Do you know? I believe it excel spreadsheets or asking files another. And you, khun generally export in asking spreadsheet as a text file. Okay, what? What is what is asking jargon jail when we have a jogging jail time? Probably that’s. Okay, i’ll catch you on the ward in the jordan job. Now that the warden what’s the jailer. A warden? Yeah, the warden in charge in jail. What’s, the asking me and scott asking is, um, i’m not going to even give you the the acronyms. Title letters, it’s, text basically something that you can read and as a text document rather than excel, which if you if you have xl that’s great. You can open your file on x. L see it. You don’t have xl. What you have is a file that is in some kind of computer language that is easily readable. Okay, so ah, word file is an asking file and no it’s, not it. Is in a sense. Yes. Okay, but it’s, what? You see when you open a word document text. Okay? And the point is you khun batch upload these files to a raise. That’s correct. Okay, so if you’re working on something that’s not dedicated to fund-raising at all like an excel spreadsheet you can you can upload easily waiting. Just a minute. We have left before the break. What do you what? What other features of ray’s should our listeners know about? It has a has a large capacity database. I think it goes even above the fifty thousand that we were talking about. So if if you if you’re small and you have a user base that is greater than fifty thousand, they want to look at the rays rather than fund-raising basic. But i will say that it’s still in that arena? Yeah, the sound ideal perfectly suited for small and midsize non-profits e-giving just one more before the break. It’s called scott i’ve gotta hold you off. We don’t have time but we do have time after the break. Scott’s going tto be with us after this break. I’m talking to scott koegler, the show’s technology expert. He’s, the editor of non-profit technology news. Stay with us. They didn’t think dick tooting. Good ending. You’re listening to the talking alternate network. Get in. Nothing. Good. Are you stuck in your business or career, trying to take your business to the next level, and it keeps hitting a wall? This is sam liebowitz, the conscious consultant. I will help you get to the root cause of your abundance issues and help move you forward in your life. Call me now and let’s. Create the future you dream of. Two, one, two, seven, two, one, eight, one, eight, three, that’s to one to seven to one, eight one eight three. The conscious consultant helping conscious people, better business people. This is tony martignetti athlete named host of tony martignetti non-profit radio big non-profit ideas for the other ninety five percent. 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Actually, what i’d like to do is talk about filosa exceed, which is kind of the next step up. Okay? Please, just say that. Say the name of the product again. Well, it’s still osa teo s a. Excuse me. All right, thanks. Please. What? What do you want to share? It’s basic fund-raising and donor management. It’s? Uh, it’s actually a smaller version of what telos a produces on a larger scale. So what? Just saying that what that means is that if you’re a growing organization tolosa exceed get you in at the basics. And again, basics is about five hundred dollars. So it’s a little bit it’s another step up from the fundraiser basic and from the res, but we’re still so much we’re so far below a thousand dollars even. Absolutely, sir. Three great products for the most expensive of the three is five hundred dollars. Okay, i’m sorry. I’m excited. No that’s. Good that i and i think that there are some things to be excited about. Here for organizations that have been struggling with excel spreadsheets and word documents and trying to manage email emerges using outlook and word. These things really offer a great way to get past that. One of the things that exceed does is it provides drill down reports and reports are pretty interesting. You know what you want to know, obviously is how is my fund-raising effort going? Who’s donating what what are the demographics of the people that are donating most? And how can i reach them better? So you want to be able to run reports that that show you in some kind of order, you can sort them in the however you like, but let’s say from most donation to least yeah, a drill down function allows you to take a look at an item that says donations of one thousand dollars, for instance, and you click that item and then it it opens up another window that shows you will hear all the donors that donated a one thousand dollar level, and from there you can draw farther. And so it gives you greater detail every time you drill into a particular item. So it sounds like the reporting is more robust on tele succeed than ah, a raise or fundraiser. Basic right. And i think that’s, a product of the fact that this is again a scaled down version of their big product. Most big products will have these kind of capabilities. And so the littlest has decided that they’ll include this advanced capability in their basic products. And is there go ahead, please? Another thing that they have with this is i just talked about the email function and urging they haven’t advanced email management capability allows you to to emerge pretty much the description, and i just said, take a lister segment of your donor’s based on their contribution level and send on ly them a specific level, a specific letter with specific information in it, and send a different email to a different set of donors, and this is all managed from within the within the program all within the program, right? Yeah, outstanding. Is there another one that you want to share with us? Sure, i just make one more point about told police that is, if you’re if you’re doing reporting, which becomes no more important, as as you’re not proper clothes, tell osa also has a data export to quickbooks, so that gives you a direct connection without having to do manual entry. Yes, and your finance, your financial officer will appreciate that very much right, and the board of directors to and theorem whatever that comes to bear the next one here does actually hit the one thousand dollar level on that is fun. Easy, that’s sweaters, fund-raising software, it’s, right in two thousand dollar mark. It has multiple modules, so this one is really available on a modular level, so you can actually define your own pricing based on the number of modules that you you take or that you need. And you know, not every organization needs every module, so you can customize it, and it also allows you to grow your capabilities as your needs grow. Scott, we have to leave it there. Just say the name of that last product again, please. Fundez easy, fundez easy, that is scott koegler he’s, the show’s technology expert, and he’s, the editor of non-profit technology news. Scott, thanks very much for joining us. We’ll see you will talk to you again in a few weeks. Thanks, johnny. 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